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Hydra

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6. I agree that it's 6 or more

Wed Sep 11, 2013, 10:22 AM

Sep 2013

And that this is evolving(already has become?) a worldwide thing via corps like Booz Allen.

The amazing thing is, the data is not being partitioned. They're sharing EVERYTHING with each other.

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NSA shares raw intelligence including Americans' data with Israel (Snowden revelations) [View all] Catherina Sep 2013 OP

Transparency! MotherPetrie Sep 2013 #1

Recommend jsr Sep 2013 #2

"no legal limits on use of data by Israelis" woo me with science Sep 2013 #3

"but the exchange is so robust, we sometimes share more than we intended." Catherina Sep 2013 #5

I always assumed the Five Eyes Agreement is really six. Probably more. leveymg Sep 2013 #4

I agree that it's 6 or more Hydra Sep 2013 #6

G-d only knows how many files there really are floating around out there about all of us, and leveymg Sep 2013 #7

Yes but the memorandum says that Israel will agree to "not deliberately target Americans identified Catherina Sep 2013 #8

Made mre spew my coffee. hobbit709 Sep 2013 #11

"This agreement is not intended to create any legally enforceable rights..." Catherina Sep 2013 #15

It has long been assumed that members of Echelon spy on each others citizens. FarCenter Sep 2013 #31

Five Eyes is only with English speaking countries jmowreader Sep 2013 #62

What makes you think Israel isn't an English-speaking country? leveymg Sep 2013 #65

The two official languages of Israel are Hebrew and Arabic jmowreader Sep 2013 #69

why did they redact the signature?? Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #9

My best guess, based on a quick google is Meir Dagan, former Director of the Mossad Catherina Sep 2013 #18

Why is it not signed by any US official? nt kelliekat44 Sep 2013 #53

Before the day is out hootinholler Sep 2013 #10

I am curious to know how posters indignant on the U.S. spying on our allies Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #13

Why do you think I would know? hootinholler Sep 2013 #14

Yep, plus any DUer who observes this and disapproves of the sharing of the spy data with Israel. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #19

The day is out? Hydra Sep 2013 #21

I'm sure it's just a good faith effort to avoid another USS Liberty incident Fumesucker Sep 2013 #12

I'm real curious about this part Autumn Sep 2013 #16

Why would the Guardian print such speculation? randome Sep 2013 #20

The Guardian didn't pose a question. The only panic I see is your panic Autumn Sep 2013 #33

And Congressmen who go overseas never suspect they are being monitored? randome Sep 2013 #42

You can always read the article if you choose . Once again, I wish you luck. Autumn Sep 2013 #44

Well... "NSA Veterans Say they Scooped up Senator Obama's Information" Catherina Sep 2013 #29

I remembered that. If they get an unfiltered bucket Autumn Sep 2013 #40

And yet the NSA does not gather information on U.S. citizens. randome Sep 2013 #17

Why is it rediculous to sort the info first? Hydra Sep 2013 #22

Sort the info how? Do you think every communication contains a signature like 'Country: America'? randome Sep 2013 #28

*lmao* Hydra Sep 2013 #30

Foreign data shared with foreign allies? I'm okay with that. randome Sep 2013 #32

Ya, it's all foreign data... Hydra Sep 2013 #49

we need to give ramdome a break while s/he figures out the whole bricks vs feathers thing. nashville_brook Sep 2013 #41

Maybe I've overused that one. randome Sep 2013 #43

"a ton of bricks a ton of feathers...they hurt the same" -- nashville_brook Sep 2013 #45

Completely wrong, your claim has been disproven Ocelot Sep 2013 #23

You're conflating metadata collection with the NSA's databases. randome Sep 2013 #26

Bullshit Ocelot Sep 2013 #34

Of course I'm guessing. randome Sep 2013 #37

+1000 GoneFishin Sep 2013 #38

K & R !!! WillyT Sep 2013 #24

Looks fine to me, more shitty reporting by the guardian snooper2 Sep 2013 #25

The guardian does excellent reporting. nt Mojorabbit Sep 2013 #57

This is not a surprise. another_liberal Sep 2013 #27

They have always received privileged treatment. I suspect that this is the rock they hoped would GoneFishin Sep 2013 #35

How special! City Lights Sep 2013 #36

AIPAC, too? Octafish Sep 2013 #39

Thank you so much Catherina for keeping us so well informed. zeemike Sep 2013 #46

Thanks Zeemike Catherina Sep 2013 #54

American Citizens Exposed To The World - Privacy - There Is No Privacy cantbeserious Sep 2013 #47

Oh dear DonCoquixote Sep 2013 #48

After they get done saying no data is being collected Hydra Sep 2013 #50

. stonecutter357 Sep 2013 #51

WTF? KamaAina Sep 2013 #52

Some are protected from snooping though arikara Sep 2013 #55

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #56

You're welcome. As always n/t Catherina Sep 2013 #59

du rec. xchrom Sep 2013 #58

It is comforting to know the U.S. shares raw domestic intelligence with a foreign indepat Sep 2013 #60

There is nothing to suggest this is domestic intelligence data. randome Sep 2013 #61

Imagine how US citizens living overseas who support Palestine must feel Catherina Sep 2013 #63

kick woo me with science Sep 2013 #64

k&r Electric Monk Sep 2013 #66

Who whould have thought that this would happen? blackspade Sep 2013 #67

K&R idwiyo Sep 2013 #68