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sarisataka

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87. I am against recalls...

Wed Sep 11, 2013, 09:43 PM

Sep 2013

Except in the case of misconduct, if you don't like how your Rep votes wait for the next election. That is the purpose of an election.

Yet since there was a recall and Democrats lost in what was believed near sure victories, it does no good to bury your head in the sand. Blaming the loss on all these tangential factors is a map on how loose the NEXT election. CO Dems need to seize the initiative back, find the issues more important than guns to their voters and press the Repubs every time they go against the voters.

It was a single issue ballot and Democrats lost. Make it multi-issue and win...

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NRA Fires Two Colorado State Senators For Doing Their Jobs And Voting On Stuff [View all] Robb Sep 2013 OP

... madamesilverspurs Sep 2013 #1

History An_enlightened_soul Sep 2013 #46

"gun control is a losing issue." Boy, if that isn't a talkiing point of the RW today, I don't know CTyankee Sep 2013 #66

Truth hurts An_enlightened_soul Sep 2013 #81

Have a good day or so on DU... CTyankee Sep 2013 #82

That is what seemed to happen here. nt ZombieHorde Sep 2013 #101

You're right. After the '94 loss of Congress to the Republicans, Clinton wrote in his autobiography AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #107

Actually the voters Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #2

Really? So you know how much American for Prosperity spent in Pueblo? Robb Sep 2013 #4

The Koch's threw in an unknown amount of money. Dawson Leery Sep 2013 #9

K&R billh58 Sep 2013 #3

'Big old guns'? Jenoch Sep 2013 #45

You have to be able to recognize a slippery slope when you see one. Agnosticsherbet Sep 2013 #5

Utter bullshit... 99Forever Sep 2013 #41

I really thought that "outlawing flint" was a clue that I was using hyperbole and sarcassm. Agnosticsherbet Sep 2013 #100

I'm curious to know what kind of precedent this creates... Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #6

It's a right-wing billh58 Sep 2013 #8

Yeah, just another right wing republican thing, just like that GOP led Wisconsin recall DonP Sep 2013 #22

right wing? Niceguy1 Sep 2013 #43

How is it disturbing? rl6214 Sep 2013 #13

It's worse in Idaho jmowreader Sep 2013 #24

What was turnout like, anyone know? leftstreet Sep 2013 #7

Very low turnout. wild bird Sep 2013 #10

Reminds me a lot of the 2010 elections. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #118

69,481 registered voters in Morse's district. 17,800 voted. Robb Sep 2013 #15

The state law sarisataka Sep 2013 #23

So I take it you are against the Democrats in this and on the side of the NRA? Right? CTyankee Sep 2013 #69

It seems many on this thread are JUBILANT that Democrats lost etherealtruth Sep 2013 #74

Yep. We shouldn't let them forget this... CTyankee Sep 2013 #79

I am against recalls... sarisataka Sep 2013 #87

Why can't we be on the side of the state constitution? hack89 Sep 2013 #91

What? The NRA brought this thing! It's not even speculation. It is fact. CTyankee Sep 2013 #114

We are talking about the state voter law. hack89 Sep 2013 #115

I merely pointed out that it is a fact that the NRA sponsored this effort. CTyankee Sep 2013 #116

Honey, if you think all Democrats are opposed to the 2nd amendment Abq_Sarah Sep 2013 #109

In the first place, there are those Dems such as me who agree with Justice Ginsburg's take on CTyankee Sep 2013 #113

No not the NRA, the voters in Colorado rl6214 Sep 2013 #11

LOL. You fail to mention the Koch brothers involvement and then call for "truth"? DanTex Sep 2013 #30

Being outspent 6:1 is being outspent 6:1, dosent matter who is involved rl6214 Sep 2013 #97

Please tell me you're not really this clueless! DanTex Sep 2013 #112

Please tell me YOU'RE not this clueless rl6214 Sep 2013 #117

Astounding! Truly living in a fantasy where the Koch brothers don't try to influence elections! DanTex Sep 2013 #119

Ok, so we've got an article saying they've contributed rl6214 Sep 2013 #121

Heh. Sorry, buddy, you're the one who made the affirmative claim, remember? DanTex Sep 2013 #122

Did you even bother to check Huffington Post's source pintobean Sep 2013 #124

Well done Pinto rl6214 Sep 2013 #128

All I know is pintobean Sep 2013 #137

Sigh. It doesn't include money spent directly by outside groups and not donated to committees. DanTex Sep 2013 #130

Where is your evidence of that. pintobean Sep 2013 #133

Are you for real? DanTex Sep 2013 #134

Maybe she would have tried pintobean Sep 2013 #135

Umm, it was clear enough for me. You're the only one who doesn't seem to get it. DanTex Sep 2013 #136

I wouldn't know what hannity mentions or doesn't mention on his show rl6214 Sep 2013 #126

Sigh. Yeah, and the huffpo article says that the there was also money spent by outside groups DanTex Sep 2013 #129

Yeah that's it .... etherealtruth Sep 2013 #50

I did not know the NRA had a vote... virginia mountainman Sep 2013 #12

Well why doesn't *everybody* get recalled in that case, then? Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #14

Because they didn't have the money Bloomberg does. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #18

I thought the recall was shaping up to be a bust on Monday. aikoaiko Sep 2013 #16

Wrong again, Robb. Those opposed to recall had millions, Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #17

I for one am glad such abjectly hostile personalities eschew guns. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #19

Do you have numbers of what Americans for Prosperity spent in Pueblo? Robb Sep 2013 #20

Don't know. But the no recall side had 3 - 3.5 million? Not enough, Rob? Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #26

AFP spent $34 million last year on attack ads against Democrats alone. Robb Sep 2013 #31

Truth you can't face: You had $$$ & manpower & failed. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #42

You mean "we" failed, right? 2 Dems lost seats to 2 Repubs. Robb Sep 2013 #47

Your approach failed, Robb. Look closer to home in the blame game... Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #49

So fine...Move the party farther right than the GOP on the gun issue Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #57

Strong support for 2A is not "moving to the right"... Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #63

First thing I've agreed with you so far... Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #68

Too late to ask that question. We started it rolling in Wisconsin. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #103

What is this "We started it rolling" shit? Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #125

I remember that, wild bird Sep 2013 #131

Davis was recalled because of incompetence. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #138

No, it's not. That's just a talking point without basis in fact. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #77

Yes, under those conditions the NRA will love you. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #102

gun humpers Skittles Sep 2013 #61

I think the answer to that is pretty obvious, ain't it? 2ndAmForComputers Sep 2013 #62

Is it? Then say it. Here. nt Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #64

Why would I? 2ndAmForComputers Sep 2013 #72

Are you aware that you are on a site that supports the Democratic party? etherealtruth Sep 2013 #54

And again I'll ask: Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #27

There's the problem, Blue: You are ready to condemn a swath of voters. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #36

By "elites", you mean the Koch brothers? Or they don't count since you agree with them politically? DanTex Sep 2013 #44

Just more untruthful attacks. BAU. nt Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #51

LOL. Dodge. Teaming up with the Koch brothers and then railing about "elites" kinda shoots down DanTex Sep 2013 #53

Truth: Controllers/prohibitionists feed the NRA beast. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #67

Ignore the Koch brothers/"elitism" issue and stick to the talking points. DanTex Sep 2013 #70

I haven't lost anything, since I don't have to live in that district Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #48

Koch brothers money warrprayer Sep 2013 #21

Gungeoneers don't want billh58 Sep 2013 #25

it's hard to believe warrprayer Sep 2013 #29

Over 3 million "swears" by Bloomie, et al. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #38

For your nemesis, the NRA, this was a win-win no matter the vote... Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #32

I like how you said "your nemesis" instead of "our" Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #40

Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #60

What's funny to me is you keep lumping me in with the "grabbers" Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #65

I'm no fan of the NRA, and I didn't use the word "grabbber" as you well know. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #75

No, the NRA is about civil rights! Robb Sep 2013 #35

Shhh! Don't mention the Koch brothers! It kills the gungeoneer narrative! DanTex Sep 2013 #39

No, they forgot about "by the people" pintobean Sep 2013 #28

As a Congressman, Lincoln was voted out of office for his criticism of the Mexican War. Robb Sep 2013 #33

It was a laughably low turnout...Don't pretend like ALL the people spoke in a unified voice... Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #34

Just like the Gungeoneers billh58 Sep 2013 #37

Who are the Gungeoneers? pintobean Sep 2013 #52

The straw DUers he bashes on a regular basis friendly_iconoclast Sep 2013 #106

"This is just a temporary setback, and sensible gun control will prevail in this country. HolyMoley Sep 2013 #58

Why would this keep the Dem voters at home? rl6214 Sep 2013 #99

Really, bill? Still quoting DUers that don't exist? friendly_iconoclast Sep 2013 #105

...And the Republicans, especially the Republican voters. Fired for representing his people. tridim Sep 2013 #55

The voters in Colorado have spoken. They've spoken volumes. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #56

If recalls are this easy to pull off, this forum should honestly start organizing some... Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #73

Great idea. Doesn't look like anyone in Colorado cared to use the DU Colorado forum for this cause. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #76

Let this be a wake-up call, then Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #78

It's not "the voters of Colorado" Art_from_Ark Sep 2013 #104

The voters in Colorado have spoken Democat Sep 2013 #108

It's not "the voters", it's "some voters" Art_from_Ark Sep 2013 #120

Are there any numbers, percentages or reporting how many Dems or Independants HolyMoley Sep 2013 #59

Frightening FreeJoe Sep 2013 #71

Two Democratic State senators were recalled etherealtruth Sep 2013 #80

It is indeed Democratic Underground, but billh58 Sep 2013 #85

It gets confusing ... etherealtruth Sep 2013 #86

The "others" billh58 Sep 2013 #88

No doubt etherealtruth Sep 2013 #89

Incidentally, one of billh58 Sep 2013 #92

Thanks for the info etherealtruth Sep 2013 #93

Against my better judgment ... I looked etherealtruth Sep 2013 #94

Sorry about that, but billh58 Sep 2013 #95

The thought that that fool owns guns etherealtruth Sep 2013 #96

Reality is that the voters made a choice Democat Sep 2013 #110

In many areas there would be more dem's if they were anti-abortion etherealtruth Sep 2013 #111

NSA loses credibility Yandorio Sep 2013 #83

Are they spying on billh58 Sep 2013 #90

Hell Robb, you're giving WAY too much credit to the NRA. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #84

No, the voters did that. n/t Skip Intro Sep 2013 #98

Not exactly.. sendero Sep 2013 #123

For the win. nt. wild bird Sep 2013 #132

Democrats lost because they weren't motivated enough to turn out the vote. hobbit709 Sep 2013 #127