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In reply to the discussion: NOBODY HERE HATES OBAMA [View all]Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)but you use that sort of rhetoric, that's what this OP is about, that sort of rhetoric. It is also typical that you offer this quote without a link. It gives no context, no poster, no nothing. Some folks have been known to edit a quote to fit an agenda. Not you of course, never. But by not linking all you are doing is gossiping using insinuation. It is not fair to me, as the other half of this discussion, and it seems manipulative even if that is not the intention. These are tactics that display your lack of respect to me personally. I offer thoughts, you snark and snuffle and pass on something you say you read. It is not respectful, it does not return that which I am offering in kind. It is definitive of those who exploit the President as excuse for shitty behavior toward others.
I say those who fling the word hate around tend to have precious little actual encounter with hate. Hate kills. Hate is not a quarrel about politics, hate is 29 States that currently allow discrimination against LGBT people in housing and employment. Hate is a bloody baseball bat, a neighborhood filled with sarin. Hate is a curse only casually tossed by those who don't know the meaning of the word, and almost always by those who surround themselves with a tightly controlled group of ideological peers because hate shouters almost always travel in groups and retreat to protected clubhouses that are harshly exclusionary after running around in public calling other people names. Folks who shout 'hate' casually and tactically almost always ascribe their actions to their own super pure loyalty to a person or an idea, any criticism toward them is said to be 'because of what I believe' and any name calling or hate shouting toward others is said to be 'support of that which I believe in'. Hate shouters are nothing new. The religious right, for example, likes to claim they are hated, that liberals and gays hate family values, that we hate religion, hate America. This crap is crap I have heard my entire life from folks who wish to impose their own views as universal standards. What is sad to me is that any Democrat would engage in this crap and frankly in my eyes it is an abuse of Obama to use him as reason for these rhetorical tactics.
I don't see the 'support' offered by the hate shouting name calling routine as being anything other than their own self indulgent acting out. It does not support Obama nor does it promote the sort of communication Obama seeks to bring to our politics, respectful, honest, moderate and based on a mutual assumption of good will. No one can 'support the President' by acting out in ways he'd not endorse.