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In reply to the discussion: Who more "progressive" do you want nominated, then explain just how he/she gets 270 electoral votes. [View all]Zorra
(27,670 posts)to challenge Obama now. He's better than any republican, so most of us will vote for him. No progressive/liberal would be stupid enough to run against Obama now, and damage the chances of a Democratic incumbent beating a republican.
Just the possibility of ending the nightmare of our current fascist SCOTUS should be enough to bring any reasonable progressive/liberal to the polls to vote for Obama.
If Obama and Congressional Dems continue to preside in their current corporatist vein for the next four years, they may permanently destroy the Democratic Party. Many of us are totally fed up with corporatism, and we want the Democratic Party to be the opposition to the republican corporatist party, not their ally.
And there is the possibility that Obama will actually govern more progressively, although the recent reversal of course in the decision not to veto the NDAA is very disheartening for progressives in this regard, so most progressives have little hope for change at this point. Habeas Corpus and the protection and preservation of civil liberties is dear to the hearts of real progressives.
Hopefully, the Occupy movement will continue to be successful and will pick up a great deal more support, and will have even more of an impact on the national conversation by 2016. People will be desperate for real progressive leadership by then; and with any luck, we will have forced Congress, through direct action tactics, to draft and pass a constitutional amendment that takes all the money out of political campaigns and prevents "bribery" of elected officials.
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