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djean111

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166. Again, I have not said it was true. I am saying it is possible.

Thu Sep 12, 2013, 04:27 PM

Sep 2013

I don't know why you are so intent on insisting I am saying it is true.

In any event, you can buy calltrunk for as little as 5.99 or so a month, record phone conversations, and then search through them with argosearch. You search the recorded audio, not a text. If you hit on a key word, you can then listen to the whole call or order a transcript. Or, perhaps, use Dragon. I saw a review for argosearch that said it leaves Siri in the dust, dunno how accurate that is.

Why would anyone speech-to-text every phone call? Just speech-to-text (or listen to) the ones where key words or phrases are used.
Anyway, again and again, I am not saying calls are recorded, I am saying the reasons giving for the impossibility of that are incorrect.

And you're complaining about reporting the truth up a few replies?
Stop conflating my saying it is possible to search through phone conversations with my saying the NSA actually does this, please........

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"Progressive Hero" Glenn Greenwald Promotes Racist, Anti-Government Hate Group [View all] michigandem58 Sep 2013 OP

IMO, Greenwald is a ratfucker...nt SidDithers Sep 2013 #1

What evidence do you have to support this opinion? el_bryanto Sep 2013 #6

Um...promoting a racist hate group, as identified by the SPLC, while claiming to be msanthrope Sep 2013 #12

When were those actions taken? el_bryanto Sep 2013 #51

After the election of the Democratic President. nt msanthrope Sep 2013 #67

Was he praising Libertarian principals or opposing the surveillance state? nt el_bryanto Sep 2013 #70

The former. Although you'll have to ask him personally about the donor's dinner for msanthrope Sep 2013 #75

Interesting el_bryanto Sep 2013 #79

He wrote white paper on decriminalization--that's a policy paper, not a mere presentation. msanthrope Sep 2013 #93

That's where I'd seen Fein's name!... SidDithers Sep 2013 #95

Why yes--yes they are. Interesting how a scion of the Libertarian Party and Greenwald were msanthrope Sep 2013 #101

I take it you are opposed to Drug Decriminalization? nt el_bryanto Sep 2013 #99

I am opposed to Koch-funded studies of any law enforcement issue. You wanna read their msanthrope Sep 2013 #103

Ah - so you are a purist? el_bryanto Sep 2013 #107

No--I distrust anything coming from the Koch brothers. CATO was founded and funded msanthrope Sep 2013 #111

So you condemn Greenwald because he wrote a paper supporting a position you agree with el_bryanto Sep 2013 #112

I condemn Greenwald because he took Koch money when he could have taken money from msanthrope Sep 2013 #115

the CATO industry isn't the same as Stormfront. If you see them as equivalent than el_bryanto Sep 2013 #117

no--unlike Stormfront, Charles Koch has billions at his disposal to spread racism. msanthrope Sep 2013 #120

I do know about those links el_bryanto Sep 2013 #125

The blog owner of 'thesheeplesview' refused to vote for Obama. Rex Sep 2013 #155

Hello! You had me at "bought and paid for" by association. I get it. Tigress DEM Sep 2013 #183

True, but they denied climate change - or at least that it was man made karynnj Sep 2013 #131

Cato fellows wrote the legal justification for the War, Torture, Warrantless Wiretapping... kfreed Jul 2015 #192

I have video snooper2 Sep 2013 #15

... michigandem58 Sep 2013 #10

OMG! You homophone. KittyWampus Sep 2013 #27

LOL Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #141

Glenn Greenwald's Fact-Challenged Libertarian Talking Points, Koch-approved kfreed Jul 2015 #193

So there is no NSA spying? Scuba Sep 2013 #2

that's like their job LOL snooper2 Sep 2013 #16

Good one! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #53

What do we expect from a DUer named snooper whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #55

Snappy answer lark Sep 2013 #98

117K targets, we learned that thanks to Snowy! snooper2 Sep 2013 #102

Thats like, not their job, man. quakerboy Sep 2013 #185

Give credit where credit is due. Shemp Howard Sep 2013 #38

That seems to be the main focus of OPs like this. Vinnie From Indy Sep 2013 #40

Amen eom dotymed Sep 2013 #77

Or the OP could be saying... iandhr Sep 2013 #88

First of all the source for the OP is an anit-left hate sight. Secondly, now that the curtain rhett o rick Sep 2013 #170

... SidDithers Sep 2013 #187

Most likely funded by the Koch Bros. Why would Democrats try to split the party rhett o rick Sep 2013 #188

Obama To Leno: 'There Is No Spying On Americans' leftstreet Sep 2013 #46

Another in a long list of reasons why I find BHO to be the most disappointing Prez of my lifetime. Scuba Sep 2013 #49

you are not alone there...but I too had high expectations Supersedeas Sep 2013 #84

I think thats a key point quakerboy Sep 2013 #186

Take # 683 of the Greenwald hate. hobbit709 Sep 2013 #3

What's going on? Whisp Sep 2013 #4

Exactly...lie down with dogs... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #56

Precious Bodily Fluids iandhr Sep 2013 #65

i might have "promoted Oathkeepers" here at DU Enrique Sep 2013 #5

Greenwald is not a progressive. MineralMan Sep 2013 #7

+1 tallahasseedem Sep 2013 #8

Here we go again. The Call to Stupid. woo me with science Sep 2013 #9

"The Peoples View" is always a alsame Sep 2013 #11

Or the converse to your little theory oberliner Sep 2013 #17

Now *that's* some doubling down on the Call to Stupid. woo me with science Sep 2013 #37

well, the plague of stupid requires stupidicus Sep 2013 #48

I swear, stupidicus.. woo me with science Sep 2013 #135

lol stupidicus Sep 2013 #177

The rant is much appreciated. :) woo me with science Sep 2013 #181

I disagree oberliner Sep 2013 #78

So now the faux complaint of being prohibited from "saying bad things about Glenn Greenwald" woo me with science Sep 2013 #123

Can't we just have a reasonable exchange of ideas? oberliner Sep 2013 #137

Reasonable exchange of ideas Capt. Obvious Sep 2013 #153

How does a conservative know who a "progressive hero" is? The Link Sep 2013 #13

Bingo! truebluegreen Sep 2013 #116

Calling Greenwald a "progressive hero" is a bit of hyperbole. djean111 Sep 2013 #14

Similar un-nuanced thinking happens in reverse oberliner Sep 2013 #20

Agree with you maddezmom Sep 2013 #25

Some wouldn't care if he was having beers with the Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #62

Or representing him in court KamaAina Sep 2013 #113

I understand what you are saying. djean111 Sep 2013 #31

Because Greenwald is a filter. jeff47 Sep 2013 #36

Well, the government is not going to tell us anything at all. djean111 Sep 2013 #54

Just because you think someone is hiding more doesn't mean he isn't. jeff47 Sep 2013 #143

If they don't have the manpower to listen to all of it in real-time, they don't have the manpower to djean111 Sep 2013 #156

Well, there's the other minor problem jeff47 Sep 2013 #163

I am not saying I know they are collecting actual calls. Not believing we have seen all the djean111 Sep 2013 #164

So....if you pull it out of the air, it must be true? jeff47 Sep 2013 #165

Again, I have not said it was true. I am saying it is possible. djean111 Sep 2013 #166

No, you aren't. jeff47 Sep 2013 #168

Argosearch searches through recorded conversations. djean111 Sep 2013 #169

Greenwald is NOT a libertarian.. frylock Sep 2013 #57

It does not matter zeemike Sep 2013 #85

And Pat Buchanan has stated that he is NOT a Republican. jeff47 Sep 2013 #146

Who is out there doing better or more? robinlynne Sep 2013 #104

It's not something that will ever be perfect jeff47 Sep 2013 #150

I've been reading about DECREASED oversight since 2011. here, besides other places. robinlynne Sep 2013 #184

You've been reading things that aren't backed by evidence. jeff47 Sep 2013 #190

court cases. not claims. court cases. robinlynne Sep 2013 #191

And as we see with his friend Assange, what he is saying may well be untrue or disinformation stevenleser Sep 2013 #127

I rest my case.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #63

What case was that? djean111 Sep 2013 #69

that some would defend him even if he sidled up to the Ku Klux Klan.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #71

Nobody is "defending him", as far as I can see. djean111 Sep 2013 #83

Thanks for this response oberliner Sep 2013 #82

that sorta begs the question though hfojvt Sep 2013 #158

isn't there a point to this? hfojvt Sep 2013 #157

Right wing libertarians! treestar Sep 2013 #18

I guess those of us who hated cointelpro and spying on us in the sixties must have been RIGHT WING!! cascadiance Sep 2013 #50

Spandan: scholar on social policy and barrista. KG Sep 2013 #19

ha ha ha Enrique Sep 2013 #32

wow.. there are fleas in that bed Peacetrain Sep 2013 #21

Back to our regularly scheduled programming BainsBane Sep 2013 #22

oh a peoples view link? SwampG8r Sep 2013 #23

It is one sentence long with no adjectives. There is no promoting. There is a statement of news. of robinlynne Sep 2013 #24

"As long as they agree with me on X, what's the difference?????" alcibiades_mystery Sep 2013 #26

His NSA reporting is key michigandem58 Sep 2013 #28

The Koch brothers are principal funders of the Reason Foundation and Reason magazine. OregonBlue Sep 2013 #29

And were also big funders and part of the leadership of the DLC infection of the Democratic Party cascadiance Sep 2013 #52

Well that does it then zeemike Sep 2013 #87

Are you a supporter of Koch and Reason? The Koch brothers father was one of the 5 founding members OregonBlue Sep 2013 #138

Why did you alter the image? Capt. Obvious Sep 2013 #30

It isn't the one Reason used but it is an actual ad put in the Metro by the Oathkeepere maddezmom Sep 2013 #34

Thanks Capt. Obvious Sep 2013 #59

Why are you posting an altered image as if it were real?...nt SidDithers Sep 2013 #39

"when you lie down with dogs ... madrchsod Sep 2013 #33

Please don't lump all us progressives in with that bunch, thx! Cryptoad Sep 2013 #35

Glenn Greenwald posts something that displays his ignorance, deceit and/or hypocrisy? baldguy Sep 2013 #41

I think Glenn and comrad eddie are communist spies. stonecutter357 Sep 2013 #42

And this invalidates the evidence so far because? Taverner Sep 2013 #43

They are separate issues. iandhr Sep 2013 #72

Exactly eom Taverner Sep 2013 #74

I don't the OP is saying that the NSA isn't spying on Americans. iandhr Sep 2013 #76

Bullshit. Octafish Sep 2013 #44

+8,749 Scuba Sep 2013 #45

Oh Octafish, tblue Sep 2013 #64

so you are saying...even if he WAS having beers with the Grand Dragon so what? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #68

Can Mighty Mouse beat up Superman? Capt. Obvious Sep 2013 #73

Grand Dragon? zeemike Sep 2013 #89

Yes - pointing out the existence of something is now "promoting" it. Maedhros Sep 2013 #126

It's amazing to watch, isn't it. woo me with science Sep 2013 #133

Snowden is a coward and a Thief. stonecutter357 Sep 2013 #47

Why does anyone give a rip about either of them? truebluegreen Sep 2013 #119

i don't think you know what "promote" or "progressive" means.. frylock Sep 2013 #58

Piece of shit blog is way too generous a discription Capt. Obvious Sep 2013 #60

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3655024 Kolesar Sep 2013 #159

You can oppose NSA violations of the constitution... iandhr Sep 2013 #61

K & R. n/t FSogol Sep 2013 #66

Even if your framing is true ...we have learned a lot from far worse people ...like Joseph Goebbels. L0oniX Sep 2013 #80

So we're back to the Pro-NSA propaganda from bullshit blogsites? last1standing Sep 2013 #81

You don't know thats what the OP is saying iandhr Sep 2013 #96

So you support guilt by association? Joe McCarthey would have been proud. last1standing Sep 2013 #100

People are always judged by the company they keep. iandhr Sep 2013 #106

That's a bullshit comparison. last1standing Sep 2013 #109

One many Republicans would be dumb enough not to know... iandhr Sep 2013 #114

Ok, you win. We should look at guilt by association. last1standing Sep 2013 #118

Touche! truebluegreen Sep 2013 #121

Thanks. You'll notice the backflips to find a difference. last1standing Sep 2013 #139

I was pissed when I found out. iandhr Sep 2013 #124

Lol! Not even close to a win. last1standing Sep 2013 #129

This not the only thing in my mind against Greenwald iandhr Sep 2013 #130

Again, far less connection than Obama with Warren or McClurkin. last1standing Sep 2013 #132

Ok then iandhr Sep 2013 #134

Did we need another president when Obama supported homophobes? last1standing Sep 2013 #136

At that time... iandhr Sep 2013 #140

And Greenwald has supported the civil rights of many, many minorities and other groups. last1standing Sep 2013 #142

Then why does he pal around with Ron Paul? iandhr Sep 2013 #145

Why does Obama pal around with Warren, a man who supports killing gays? last1standing Sep 2013 #147

He doesn't anymore. iandhr Sep 2013 #148

You sure? I can't find anywhere that Obama denounced him. last1standing Sep 2013 #151

"Why is your agenda more important than simple truth?" I could ask the Greenwald fanatics........... AverageJoe90 Sep 2013 #172

fail U4ikLefty Sep 2013 #175

Not at all. To the contrary, in fact. AverageJoe90 Sep 2013 #179

Has there been any further Greenwald comment on this? Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #86

Figures that Eisenhower was a commie flamingdem Sep 2013 #90

Larry Summers raindaddy Sep 2013 #91

@#$% Glenn Greenwald. Scurrilous Sep 2013 #92

Another Ten Minute Hate. leveymg Sep 2013 #94

K&r Sand Wind Sep 2013 #97

blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.....etc bowens43 Sep 2013 #105

you really must find other sources to work with then a crackpost conspiracy theory hate site, REALLY Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #108

Bullshit MNBrewer Sep 2013 #110

Why make such a dishonest argument? DirkGently Sep 2013 #122

Wow. What a sad pathetic post. Have you ever even tried to make a rational argument? DesMoinesDem Sep 2013 #128

"The Peoples Spew" spews again. bunnies Sep 2013 #144

Why did 'the peoples view' blog owner refuse to vote for Obama? Rex Sep 2013 #149

The second I read the thread title AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #152

Glenn Greenwald Speaks Out at Socialism 2013 Conference with intro by Jeremy Scahill Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #154

frylock:"you're just here to "promote" your piece of shit blog, spandan" Kolesar Sep 2013 #160

I'd categorize this under "flogging your blog" - TBF Sep 2013 #161

It's not his blog, though. freshwest Sep 2013 #162

K & R Scurrilous Sep 2013 #167

You finally found a website that will feed you anti-left hatred. nm rhett o rick Sep 2013 #171

Wow! shenmue Sep 2013 #173

Wll your latest lame, cheesy attempt at character assassination... 99Forever Sep 2013 #174

Greenwald's his own worst hatemongering enemy. Cha Sep 2013 #176

"Good riddance, Barack Obama." rug Sep 2013 #178

Same old posters, same old tactics: Shoot the messengers. Th1onein Sep 2013 #180

Still threatened by Greenwald I see. cui bono Sep 2013 #182

Greenwald allies himself with anyone who helps Progressive dog Sep 2013 #189