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Showing Original Post only (View all)Putin and Assad are trying save Assad's ass. That is not having an upperhand [View all]
Everyone knows the back story, including Putin and his obstruction.
Putin says he, Obama discussed control over Syrian chemical arms
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023640131
Then Kerry said something, and within hours, Russia proposed that Syria accept, which it did, and then the UN signed on. By the end of the day, China and Iran were also on board.
Assad: Russia, Not U.S. Threats, Influenced Me To Surrender Chemical Weapons
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023654652
The threat of force is not going to be removed from the table. It's up to Assad to do the right thing.
Article 41
The Security Council may decide what measures not involving the use of armed force are to be employed to give effect to its decisions, and it may call upon the Members of the United Nations to apply such measures. These may include complete or partial interruption of economic relations and of rail, sea, air, postal, telegraphic, radio, and other means of communication, and the severance of diplomatic relations.
Article 42
Should the Security Council consider that measures provided for in Article 41 would be inadequate or have proved to be inadequate, it may take such action by air, sea, or land forces as may be necessary to maintain or restore international peace and security. Such action may include demonstrations, blockade, and other operations by air, sea, or land forces of Members of the United Nations.
http://www.un.org/en/documents/charter/chapter7.shtml
The Security Council may decide what measures not involving the use of armed force are to be employed to give effect to its decisions, and it may call upon the Members of the United Nations to apply such measures. These may include complete or partial interruption of economic relations and of rail, sea, air, postal, telegraphic, radio, and other means of communication, and the severance of diplomatic relations.
Article 42
Should the Security Council consider that measures provided for in Article 41 would be inadequate or have proved to be inadequate, it may take such action by air, sea, or land forces as may be necessary to maintain or restore international peace and security. Such action may include demonstrations, blockade, and other operations by air, sea, or land forces of Members of the United Nations.
http://www.un.org/en/documents/charter/chapter7.shtml
He is in no position to make demands, especially ones unrelated to his chemical arsenal, which he was also forced to acknowledge.
By Stephanie Condon
Kerry: High expectations for Syria deal, especially for Russia
As Secretary of State John Kerry and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov got down to the business of crafting a deal for Syria to hand over its chemical weapons, Kerry on Thursday acknowledged the high expectations that exist for both powerful nations.
"They're high for the United States, perhaps even higher for Russia to deliver at this moment," Kerry said from Geneva, in opening remarks ahead of the negotiations. "This is not a game."
Any deal for Syria to relinquish its stockpiles, he said, must be real, comprehensive, verifiable and implemented in a timely fashion. He added, "There ought to be consequences if it doesn't take place."
Syria has suggested that the regime ought to have the standard 30 days to submit data on its chemical weapons stockpile, but Kerry said, "We believe there is nothing standard about this process at this moment," noting that chemical weapons have already been used.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57602674/kerry-high-expectations-for-syria-deal-especially-for-russia/
Kerry: High expectations for Syria deal, especially for Russia
As Secretary of State John Kerry and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov got down to the business of crafting a deal for Syria to hand over its chemical weapons, Kerry on Thursday acknowledged the high expectations that exist for both powerful nations.
"They're high for the United States, perhaps even higher for Russia to deliver at this moment," Kerry said from Geneva, in opening remarks ahead of the negotiations. "This is not a game."
Any deal for Syria to relinquish its stockpiles, he said, must be real, comprehensive, verifiable and implemented in a timely fashion. He added, "There ought to be consequences if it doesn't take place."
Syria has suggested that the regime ought to have the standard 30 days to submit data on its chemical weapons stockpile, but Kerry said, "We believe there is nothing standard about this process at this moment," noting that chemical weapons have already been used.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57602674/kerry-high-expectations-for-syria-deal-especially-for-russia/
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Putin and Assad are trying save Assad's ass. That is not having an upperhand [View all]
ProSense
Sep 2013
OP
I'm truly sorry you didn't get the war you wanted. Perhaps we can attack Venezuela?
Warren Stupidity
Sep 2013
#17
One would think it's fairly obvious that Russia's and Assad's new-found willingness
cheapdate
Sep 2013
#22
Viewing it as a contest for the upper hand isn't helpful with so many lives and limbs in the balance
pinboy3niner
Sep 2013
#33
"It is the grand chess game, and at this time I would say the Russians have control of the board."
ProSense
Sep 2013
#46
You're playing the same game, promoting the notion of U.S./Obama dominance
pinboy3niner
Sep 2013
#47
You go out of your way to try to prove that Putin doesn't have the "upper hand" over Obama
pinboy3niner
Sep 2013
#50
The fact that anyone feels a need to dispute who has "the upper hand" says a lot in itself. nt
pinboy3niner
Sep 2013
#55
Peace is good for Certain. Peace in this world will be slow in coming but not in our lifetime.
lumpy
Sep 2013
#49
Most intelligent people can see Putin is now boxed in by his own words.
Pretzel_Warrior
Sep 2013
#61