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In reply to the discussion: "Progressive Hero" Glenn Greenwald Promotes Racist, Anti-Government Hate Group [View all]stupidicus
(2,570 posts)177. lol
it has it's origin here
I chose it better than a decade now when joining "The Fray" which Slate through the WP hosted, and largely to give the cons/repubs I battled an easy out when they ran outta ammo. The number of lefties here that have sought to make hay outta it has been a bit amusing as well.
You know it woo. "Creepy" is a good way of describing it. I'd say what we're looking at and battling here is due to the absence of the common enemy in the WH, and the lack of focus on that, as well as the actions and inaction of the current occupant, has given rise to the awareness that the "D" he has doesn't necessarily make him our preferred/ideal kinda friend. Those of us feeling a sense of unease/being "creeped" out is totally understandable and expected under the circumstances, because near unanimity has been replaced with much discord, and quite the schism as a result. I'd say there's a real correlation between how "creeped out" one is about the current political conditions and issues, and the level of awareness and understanding one has of them.
To be quite honest and frank with you, while I find all the demands for tribalism and the rhetorical products, suspension of reason and logic, etc, of it pretty "creepy" given the remarkable similarlity it has to the Bushbotism I battled for so long, I find great encouragement in the number of those around here who don't seem to be afflicted by it, and who are prisoners of their long held or newly discovered principles instead. While battling those cons/repubs for so long, I was also making the case to my fellow lefties that the enemy of our enemy wasn't necessarily our real friend, so what this board has been embroiled in -- the battle for the heart and soul of the left, and who gets to determine what we stand for -- is not something new to me, nor are the dynamics of it all.
I'm inclined to think that he's unintentionally performed a great service for those of us on the left, insomuch as he's shown on several issues, and raised awareness as a result, as to how little separation their truly is between what I've long characterized as the faux duopoly in DC. They no longer compete as much as they try to sell the same product under a different brand name. The dems these days and for quite some time, have been the party that dispenses the occasional bone seasoned heavily with the fear of our only alternative, while the rightwingnuts have increasingly provided ample reasons for that fear.
That imo, is the truth and realization many around here seek to avoid with their strident defense of all things BHO.
sorry for the rant. As an armchair social psychologist I thought maybe it would be nice to provide an encouraging prognosis for the creepy pathogen our many mosquitos are spreading around here.
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"Progressive Hero" Glenn Greenwald Promotes Racist, Anti-Government Hate Group [View all]
michigandem58
Sep 2013
OP
Um...promoting a racist hate group, as identified by the SPLC, while claiming to be
msanthrope
Sep 2013
#12
Was he praising Libertarian principals or opposing the surveillance state? nt
el_bryanto
Sep 2013
#70
The former. Although you'll have to ask him personally about the donor's dinner for
msanthrope
Sep 2013
#75
He wrote white paper on decriminalization--that's a policy paper, not a mere presentation.
msanthrope
Sep 2013
#93
Why yes--yes they are. Interesting how a scion of the Libertarian Party and Greenwald were
msanthrope
Sep 2013
#101
I am opposed to Koch-funded studies of any law enforcement issue. You wanna read their
msanthrope
Sep 2013
#103
No--I distrust anything coming from the Koch brothers. CATO was founded and funded
msanthrope
Sep 2013
#111
So you condemn Greenwald because he wrote a paper supporting a position you agree with
el_bryanto
Sep 2013
#112
I condemn Greenwald because he took Koch money when he could have taken money from
msanthrope
Sep 2013
#115
the CATO industry isn't the same as Stormfront. If you see them as equivalent than
el_bryanto
Sep 2013
#117
no--unlike Stormfront, Charles Koch has billions at his disposal to spread racism.
msanthrope
Sep 2013
#120
Cato fellows wrote the legal justification for the War, Torture, Warrantless Wiretapping...
kfreed
Jul 2015
#192
First of all the source for the OP is an anit-left hate sight. Secondly, now that the curtain
rhett o rick
Sep 2013
#170
Most likely funded by the Koch Bros. Why would Democrats try to split the party
rhett o rick
Sep 2013
#188
Another in a long list of reasons why I find BHO to be the most disappointing Prez of my lifetime.
Scuba
Sep 2013
#49
So now the faux complaint of being prohibited from "saying bad things about Glenn Greenwald"
woo me with science
Sep 2013
#123
Some wouldn't care if he was having beers with the Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan...
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2013
#62
If they don't have the manpower to listen to all of it in real-time, they don't have the manpower to
djean111
Sep 2013
#156
I am not saying I know they are collecting actual calls. Not believing we have seen all the
djean111
Sep 2013
#164
I've been reading about DECREASED oversight since 2011. here, besides other places.
robinlynne
Sep 2013
#184
And as we see with his friend Assange, what he is saying may well be untrue or disinformation
stevenleser
Sep 2013
#127
that some would defend him even if he sidled up to the Ku Klux Klan....
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2013
#71
I guess those of us who hated cointelpro and spying on us in the sixties must have been RIGHT WING!!
cascadiance
Sep 2013
#50
It is one sentence long with no adjectives. There is no promoting. There is a statement of news. of
robinlynne
Sep 2013
#24
The Koch brothers are principal funders of the Reason Foundation and Reason magazine.
OregonBlue
Sep 2013
#29
And were also big funders and part of the leadership of the DLC infection of the Democratic Party
cascadiance
Sep 2013
#52
Are you a supporter of Koch and Reason? The Koch brothers father was one of the 5 founding members
OregonBlue
Sep 2013
#138
It isn't the one Reason used but it is an actual ad put in the Metro by the Oathkeepere
maddezmom
Sep 2013
#34
Glenn Greenwald posts something that displays his ignorance, deceit and/or hypocrisy?
baldguy
Sep 2013
#41
so you are saying...even if he WAS having beers with the Grand Dragon so what?
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2013
#68
Even if your framing is true ...we have learned a lot from far worse people ...like Joseph Goebbels.
L0oniX
Sep 2013
#80
So you support guilt by association? Joe McCarthey would have been proud.
last1standing
Sep 2013
#100
And Greenwald has supported the civil rights of many, many minorities and other groups.
last1standing
Sep 2013
#142
"Why is your agenda more important than simple truth?" I could ask the Greenwald fanatics...........
AverageJoe90
Sep 2013
#172
you really must find other sources to work with then a crackpost conspiracy theory hate site, REALLY
Douglas Carpenter
Sep 2013
#108
Wow. What a sad pathetic post. Have you ever even tried to make a rational argument?
DesMoinesDem
Sep 2013
#128
Glenn Greenwald Speaks Out at Socialism 2013 Conference with intro by Jeremy Scahill
Douglas Carpenter
Sep 2013
#154