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In reply to the discussion: The New Truthers: Americans Who Deny Syria Used Chemical Weapons [View all]bvar22
(39,909 posts)45. Another Phony Bullshit Strawman post from the usual quarters.
#1) Please post links to DUers who "DENY" that Assad used Chemical Weapons.
2) Please post PROOF that Assad USED them.
"Maybe", Possibly" and "Common Sense" is NOT PROOF.
Even the USA Government has admitted that they have NO PROOF.
At NO time has the US Government stated that Assad is guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt.
PROOF, beyond the Shadow of a Doubt is the necessary criteria before state sponsored executions,
and should be doubly so for starting New WARS,
or for Sending a Message by killing another country's childtren.
Here is a "credible analysis":
Is It Possible The Syrian Rebels (Not Assad) Used Chemical Weapons?
<snip>
All of that said, note that the U.S. has qualified every statement it has made about the situation. it is "undeniable" that chemical weapons had been used in Syria and he set out a case against Assad without directly blaming the regime for the attack.
During his daily press briefing Tuesday, : "There is also very little doubt, and should be no doubt for anyone who approaches this logically, that the Syrian regime is responsible for the use of chemical weapons on August 21st outside of Damascus."
Jean Pascal Zanders, who worked for the European Union Institute for Security Studies from 2008 to 2013 and concentrated on the non-proliferation of chemical weapons says until the U.N. investigative team presents its report, "we need to keep our minds open that the events of last Wednesday could in whole or partially have alternative explanations."
"In fact, we the public know very little beyond the observation of outward symptoms of asphyxiation and possible exposure to neurotoxicants, despite the mass of images and film footage," Zanders added. "For the West's credibility, I think that governments should await the results of the U.N. investigation."
<more>
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/08/27/216172145/is-it-possible-the-syrian-rebels-not-assad-used-chemical-weapons
<snip>
All of that said, note that the U.S. has qualified every statement it has made about the situation. it is "undeniable" that chemical weapons had been used in Syria and he set out a case against Assad without directly blaming the regime for the attack.
During his daily press briefing Tuesday, : "There is also very little doubt, and should be no doubt for anyone who approaches this logically, that the Syrian regime is responsible for the use of chemical weapons on August 21st outside of Damascus."
Jean Pascal Zanders, who worked for the European Union Institute for Security Studies from 2008 to 2013 and concentrated on the non-proliferation of chemical weapons says until the U.N. investigative team presents its report, "we need to keep our minds open that the events of last Wednesday could in whole or partially have alternative explanations."
"In fact, we the public know very little beyond the observation of outward symptoms of asphyxiation and possible exposure to neurotoxicants, despite the mass of images and film footage," Zanders added. "For the West's credibility, I think that governments should await the results of the U.N. investigation."
<more>
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/08/27/216172145/is-it-possible-the-syrian-rebels-not-assad-used-chemical-weapons
Now THAT is a "Credible Analysis" and NOT the hyped stories YOU and YOURS have been flinging around DU.
The truth is, WE DON"T KNOW WHO used these weapons in Syria,
and until we do KNOW, it is wildly irresponsible to be fomenting new WARS and Sending Messages to The World.
If you guys were prevented from using Logical Fallacies
and just Making Stuff UP as you go,
post counts from the Conservative Pro-WAR Wing of DU would plummet.
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Assad is the head of the country and HE'S not claiming that anyone else gave the order.
pnwmom
Sep 2013
#58
War is cheap, easy and expedient. All right-thinking people know this. n/t
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2013
#77
A Lot Of People Here Have Disgraced Themselves, Sir, Promoting This 'false flag' Swill
The Magistrate
Sep 2013
#2
You Cannot Slide Off The Point Like That, Sir: 'False Flag' Claims On This Are Purile Swill
The Magistrate
Sep 2013
#102
No Senator Or Representative Has Stated, Sir, It Was A 'False Flag' Operation By Rebels
The Magistrate
Sep 2013
#109
provided to us by israeli intelligence, who certainly has some interest in this affair..
frylock
Sep 2013
#39
Rep. Grayson, Sir, Has Said He Is Convinced Syrian Government Forces Launched The Gas
The Magistrate
Sep 2013
#40
Alan Grayson: ‘They have no smoking gun that the attack was ordered by Assad’
Junkdrawer
Sep 2013
#44
Everyone Tries To Sell Themselves A Bit, Sir: That's What America Is All About, Always Has Been
The Magistrate
Sep 2013
#61
Your Line, Sir, Sounds More And More Like Someone Arguing For Creationism Versus Evolution
The Magistrate
Sep 2013
#51
And even though they were used, in what way does that obligate us to respond?
truebluegreen
Sep 2013
#82
A better case for truthers is those who deny that the rebels have used chemical weapons.
former9thward
Sep 2013
#25
I've believed all along that both sides may have used them. But we'll just....
Little Star
Sep 2013
#66
I realize seeing four hundred children deceased is not enough proof for some
Thinkingabout
Sep 2013
#70
Anyone who seriously considers who COULD have done it will come to the same conclusion.
Barack_America
Sep 2013
#96
There is no definitive evidence that Assad did it. Even Kerry, in his remarks a few weeks ago,
truth2power
Sep 2013
#110
Human Rights Watch, Sanders, Warren and Grayson are all convinced that Assad's forces are guilty.
pampango
Sep 2013
#74
How incredibly sad, that the propaganda is now consistently at this level
woo me with science
Sep 2013
#94