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ProSense

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48. No,

Thu Sep 12, 2013, 11:20 PM

Sep 2013

"You're playing the same game, promoting the notion of U.S./Obama dominance"

...holding Assad accountable for the chemical attack has nothing to do with U.S. dominance.

I mean, if you are to take Putin at his word, he supports the efforts of the international community to prevent such attacks.

"Russia's position ... is well known - we are against the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction of any kind - chemical and nuclear weapons," Putin said.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023640131

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Putin and Assad are trying save Assad's ass. That is not having an upperhand [View all] ProSense Sep 2013 OP

K&R! sheshe2 Sep 2013 #1

Does it matter? David__77 Sep 2013 #2

Yes, it does matter ProSense Sep 2013 #3

I guess I wouldn't understand how being powerful = being good or right. David__77 Sep 2013 #4

Are you ProSense Sep 2013 #6

I am not arguing that or being coy. David__77 Sep 2013 #10

Oh, I see... David__77 Sep 2013 #13

No, you misunderstood my point. ProSense Sep 2013 #15

No, I understood your point. David__77 Sep 2013 #18

Obama didn't have the votes. That isn't 11th Dimensional Chess. leveymg Sep 2013 #51

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #29

Welcome to DU. ProSense Sep 2013 #30

MIRT high five bobduca Sep 2013 #66

no...it does not matter noiretextatique Sep 2013 #7

Actually, ProSense Sep 2013 #8

so YOU know that it was Assad, for sure? noiretextatique Sep 2013 #9

So you're abandoning the "cold war" nonsense? ProSense Sep 2013 #11

ok...they were WRONG about Iraq noiretextatique Sep 2013 #14

"got it." Evidently not. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #16

what? don't like my link? noiretextatique Sep 2013 #20

Got anything older than three weeks ago? ProSense Sep 2013 #21

Of course you ignore it when the UN says the rebels used gas. former9thward Sep 2013 #25

No, I didn't, and what does that have to do with the August attack? ProSense Sep 2013 #27

What does it have to do with it? former9thward Sep 2013 #60

That report is from May of 2013. Can you post an update ? lumpy Sep 2013 #44

I have seen no update. former9thward Sep 2013 #59

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #32

TRUTH! Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #5

This is all happening because the President wasn't negotiating Cha Sep 2013 #12

I'm truly sorry you didn't get the war you wanted. Perhaps we can attack Venezuela? Warren Stupidity Sep 2013 #17

You have me mistaken for your someone in your imagination. ProSense Sep 2013 #19

imaginary person on the internet is imaginary Warren Stupidity Sep 2013 #67

Indeed stupidicus Sep 2013 #24

One would think it's fairly obvious that Russia's and Assad's new-found willingness cheapdate Sep 2013 #22

Couldn't care less who's ass was saved, as long as her's is one of them..... DeSwiss Sep 2013 #23

+10000000. nt riderinthestorm Sep 2013 #63

K & R Scurrilous Sep 2013 #26

Assad's isn't the only ass that's on the line pscot Sep 2013 #28

Really? ProSense Sep 2013 #34

Amazing!! raindaddy Sep 2013 #31

"Of course Putin wants to save Assad's ass." ProSense Sep 2013 #35

The point is.... raindaddy Sep 2013 #40

Viewing it as a contest for the upper hand isn't helpful with so many lives and limbs in the balance pinboy3niner Sep 2013 #33

But it is being done. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #36

And who has clean hands here, in that respect? nt pinboy3niner Sep 2013 #37

Who said anything about "clean hands"? ProSense Sep 2013 #38

And you're using framing that is not conducive to peace pinboy3niner Sep 2013 #39

What? n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #41

You're making this into a contest between Obama and Putin pinboy3niner Sep 2013 #45

"It is the grand chess game, and at this time I would say the Russians have control of the board." ProSense Sep 2013 #46

You're playing the same game, promoting the notion of U.S./Obama dominance pinboy3niner Sep 2013 #47

No, ProSense Sep 2013 #48

You go out of your way to try to prove that Putin doesn't have the "upper hand" over Obama pinboy3niner Sep 2013 #50

No, it wasn't "out of" my "way." ProSense Sep 2013 #52

The fact that anyone feels a need to dispute who has "the upper hand" says a lot in itself. nt pinboy3niner Sep 2013 #55

OK, but it is what it is. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #56

Peace is good for Certain. Peace in this world will be slow in coming but not in our lifetime. lumpy Sep 2013 #49

Peace in this conflict doesn't have to take so long pinboy3niner Sep 2013 #53

Please stop trying to twist this into a political win for Obama - it isn't. reformist2 Sep 2013 #42

Why, are you upset that Assad and Putin don't have the upperhand? n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #43

im gonna jump in SwampG8r Sep 2013 #54

Most intelligent people can see Putin is now boxed in by his own words. Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #61

America truly is exceptional... bobduca Sep 2013 #57

It is what it is. ProSense Sep 2013 #62

In Soviet Russia... bobduca Sep 2013 #64

This is ProSense Sep 2013 #65

Sounds like a big round of CYA. Rex Sep 2013 #58