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58. For this and other reasons, I do feel THIS Pope is a much better Pope than the previous ones.

Fri Sep 13, 2013, 02:09 AM

Sep 2013

Pope John Paul was sincere, but SO conservative. He was undoing a lot of progress made in Vatican II.

Pope Benedict ---- NEVER could stomach him. From his years as a Nazi youth to the red shoe swagger and his willingness to buddy up with the right wing.... not someone I could respect.

But Pope Francis took a very humble moniker of someone in the Catholic faith who stood up for the poor and was inclusive and worked for peace even though he came from a privileged situation. He took on poverty and did a lot of good in his time.

The Church (writ big) has lost so many members to this insistence upon hatred as a doctrine, including myself.

I hesitate to be overly optimistic, but my hope for Pope Francis actually doing good is a lot higher than my aspirations for Putin really changing. But who knows?

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I thought DU was pro gay rights??? (Genuinely hurt) [View all] NewsCenter28 Sep 2013 OP

Chemical weapons don't discriminate. n/t mia Sep 2013 #1

The thread you reference was meant in a satire or mocking way quinnox Sep 2013 #2

Like Greenwald hanging out with the Oath Keepers.. VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #4

Huh? quinnox Sep 2013 #5

It wasn't meant to you necessarily....you had to be there.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #20

That damn Greenwald, always creeping in threads that have nothing to do with him. cui bono Sep 2013 #78

When the word 'gay' is spoken, some have to inject Greenwald, becuase he's Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #111

These days it seems there are a lot of trigger words. cui bono Sep 2013 #117

! cyberswede Sep 2013 #120

Yup BeyondGeography Sep 2013 #130

Wow. n/t eShirl Sep 2013 #3

Ya shore got a big spoon there. xfundy Sep 2013 #6

It may not be about Syria, but the same principles apply frazzled Sep 2013 #7

Well said frazzled! I fit that description, too. My personal Cha Sep 2013 #21

Very well written! Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #24

Completely agree with this post. NYC Liberal Sep 2013 #47

Well done! Summer Hathaway Sep 2013 #51

You got it exactly right. CakeGrrl Sep 2013 #73

I agree. HappyMe Sep 2013 #126

What if we care as about the 98,000 shot or blown up as the 2000 gassed? eridani Sep 2013 #83

Depends on what is meant by "care". republicans may "care" about a homeless child, but pampango Sep 2013 #91

How about having caring summarized by requesting our government to give far more eridani Sep 2013 #142

Those are great suggestions. Took the words right out of my mouth. n/t pampango Sep 2013 #146

Beautiful! JustAnotherGen Sep 2013 #85

+1 great white snark Sep 2013 #90

k&r Progressive dog Sep 2013 #94

Excellent post. nt Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #96

Well said! nt treestar Sep 2013 #97

well said!! +1000 Sheepshank Sep 2013 #110

+ 100 Scurrilous Sep 2013 #112

You are utterly magnificent Number23 Sep 2013 #114

This message was self-deleted by its author Marr Sep 2013 #127

I also agree with the post Gothmog Sep 2013 #132

There ya go. Great post. AverageJoe90 Sep 2013 #137

I wish that I could recommend this post. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2013 #154

Love it. JaneyVee Sep 2013 #159

You're a newbie so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt riderinthestorm Sep 2013 #8

Is it not possible to discuss the merits of Putin's argument without being accused of homophobia? BlueStreak Sep 2013 #41

can you imagine writing the same words about say Hitler dsc Sep 2013 #139

What does Hitler have to do with anything? BlueStreak Sep 2013 #147

Putin is to gays as Hitler in 33 was to Jews dsc Sep 2013 #151

Yes, that is potentially true, depending on how the rest of the incipient gay genocide goes down MNBrewer Sep 2013 #152

there is literally nothing Putin can say which I will listen to dsc Sep 2013 #153

It's too bad that your mind is so closed to even hearing his side of the issue MNBrewer Sep 2013 #155

He's been here since 2011 JustAnotherGen Sep 2013 #86

I stood up for the LGBT community here for years. kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #9

Indeed NewsCenter28 Sep 2013 #10

Welcome to DU gopiscrap Sep 2013 #12

WTF? Thanking yourself for your own OP? quinnox Sep 2013 #13

He probably failed at logging into his sock puppet account LittleBlue Sep 2013 #15

I guess so! quinnox Sep 2013 #17

Right. With your super duper laser vision. n/t pnwmom Sep 2013 #25

The guy just wrote a reply to himself where he said "your" LittleBlue Sep 2013 #38

The poster obviously made a mistake. Have you never made a mistake? I have. pnwmom Sep 2013 #49

A mistake that very clearly revealed that he's a sock puppet. Marr Sep 2013 #131

Whoops Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #44

lol!!! darkangel218 Sep 2013 #67

lol LittleBlue Sep 2013 #80

I was thanking Frazzled for her well-written post NewsCenter28 Sep 2013 #32

You gotta click on ' reply to this post'. bravenak Sep 2013 #40

somebody got his/her sock puppets mixed up! progressoid Sep 2013 #33

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LOL! Looks like he forgot to click to switch accounts in his persona management software... backscatter712 Sep 2013 #125

LOL sockpuppet fail n/t leftstreet Sep 2013 #26

Bwahaha!!! They forgot to change their log in. cui bono Sep 2013 #57

Do you remember when Political Tiger/Boomerang Diddle came to DU QC Sep 2013 #115

No... missed that. n/t cui bono Sep 2013 #145

LMFAO Marr Sep 2013 #129

This message was self-deleted by its author AverageJoe90 Sep 2013 #135

Do you realize how hard we had to fight against Obama in order to get him to MNBrewer Sep 2013 #156

I'm pro equal rights for the LGBT community gopiscrap Sep 2013 #11

So, bisexual-lean gay man can't possibly be trolls? Good to know. Xipe Totec Sep 2013 #14

Those posts are all tongue-in-cheek or sarcastic. Nobody here actually likes Putin. Dash87 Sep 2013 #16

I have a daughter that is bisexual and I do stand with her against people like Putin. He is not a liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #18

+1 MNBrewer Sep 2013 #157

You know you can be all pro LGBT rights nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #19

Is this satire? LiberalAndProud Sep 2013 #22

Obviously not. n/t pnwmom Sep 2013 #50

DU itself is pro LGBT rights. William769 Sep 2013 #23

Hey William~ Cha Sep 2013 #29

There have been may of us fighting this fight since the beginning William769 Sep 2013 #31

It does Cha Sep 2013 #36

What's your BMI? Common Sense Party Sep 2013 #27

It means 'leans toward' gay rather than straight, while being bi.... Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #99

Thanks for the explanation. Ilsa Sep 2013 #109

There's a certain element on here who puff up Putin because Cha Sep 2013 #28

That is a false dichotomy BlueStreak Sep 2013 #43

"I'd wager the vast majority of people at this site who agree Summer Hathaway Sep 2013 #65

So according to you anyone who says they campaigned for Obama is lying. Okay.... cui bono Sep 2013 #75

I am rather startled Summer Hathaway Sep 2013 #143

You know what? I think you're right, I misread last night and read too much into your post. cui bono Sep 2013 #144

Been there, done that. Summer Hathaway Sep 2013 #148

I can see what you're saying but I really don't think, and I didn't take away, cui bono Sep 2013 #149

We disagree on many things. Summer Hathaway Sep 2013 #164

The people who are puffing Putin up are the ones who keep posting the threads attempting to mock cui bono Sep 2013 #56

I'm FOR tolerance AND Gay Rights, but sometimes change begins in very odd ways.... Tigress DEM Sep 2013 #30

Thanks and to Liberalandproud-no I was deadly serious-not satire NewsCenter28 Sep 2013 #35

I want to thank for that NC.. that's Cha Sep 2013 #37

But I DO get you have every right to be pissed as He double toothpicks at Putin. Tigress DEM Sep 2013 #45

I've been to Russia 7 times and believe me go west young man Sep 2013 #66

I'm simply saying if a world leader will make ANY positive move, let them. Tigress DEM Sep 2013 #162

Agreed. go west young man Sep 2013 #163

I guess everyone who has ever owned a VW Bug supports Hitler too. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #34

Who is DU? shireen Sep 2013 #39

DU recs posts that praise the Pope when he farts... MellowDem Sep 2013 #42

Well at least when he farts he's doing something productive. Tigress DEM Sep 2013 #48

I appreciate that you're withholding judgment until you learn more. pnwmom Sep 2013 #53

For this and other reasons, I do feel THIS Pope is a much better Pope than the previous ones. Tigress DEM Sep 2013 #58

I feel much the same. pnwmom Sep 2013 #60

And IF his ONLY claim to fame is that he stops the war on gays by the Catholic Church.... Tigress DEM Sep 2013 #62

That's certainly true! n/t pnwmom Sep 2013 #64

Pope Francis doesn't deserve to be compared to Putin, but anti-Catholic bigots pnwmom Sep 2013 #52

NOT an anti-Catholic bigot, thank you very much. Former Catholic. Discouraged with Church politics. Tigress DEM Sep 2013 #59

I know you aren't! I was responding to post #42. n/t pnwmom Sep 2013 #61

oops - my mis read. time to go to bed I think. Nite everyone. nt Tigress DEM Sep 2013 #63

I.E. "As long as they don't have sex" jberryhill Sep 2013 #82

I'm guessing you never heard he supported civil unions in Buenos Aires. pnwmom Sep 2013 #88

He oppossed marriage equality in Argentina, like many on the right he hoped Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #103

Yeah, but he still thinks gays will go to hell if they engage in intercourse. Vashta Nerada Sep 2013 #124

Yes, the Pope is tremendously popular on DU... Union Scribe Sep 2013 #71

For a homophobic bigot, he sure is... MellowDem Sep 2013 #138

I will give the pope one thing LostOne4Ever Sep 2013 #141

I stand up for LGBT rights. Period. gtar100 Sep 2013 #46

It's a headscratcher ain't it? I've seen arguments here that Obama is... Tarheel_Dem Sep 2013 #54

There is no folk hero status of Putin that I've seen except for the fantasy one of a certain cui bono Sep 2013 #55

Your right on the money. go west young man Sep 2013 #68

I'll grant NewsCenter28 Sep 2013 #74

Being as all politicians are, well, politicians, it might be wise not to think of them as heroes. cui bono Sep 2013 #77

What is the avatar thread? NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #95

trumad jokingly asked for a Putin avatar cyberswede Sep 2013 #122

Oh, yeah, Duh. I got one right here, I'll go post it: NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #123

Exactly. It's the sort of black and white, 'with us or against us' nonsense that authoritarians seem Marr Sep 2013 #128

As much as I wish that was true, I'm afraid there are some who DO act that way, even if not......... AverageJoe90 Sep 2013 #136

But support for Putin on this issue Yo_Mama Sep 2013 #69

I didn't vote for his re-election because of DOMA MNBrewer Sep 2013 #158

I support equal rights with respect to gays. mick063 Sep 2013 #70

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2013 #72

What utter and complete nonsense. David__77 Sep 2013 #76

Good grief are you saying we need to choose war or lgbts? dkf Sep 2013 #79

Exactly. I'm sick of the black-and-white bullshit. backscatter712 Sep 2013 #102

"I could give 2 shits about Syria" Laughing Mirror Sep 2013 #81

The world is complex. Very complex. mnhtnbb Sep 2013 #84

I see an awful lot of people suddenly JoeyT Sep 2013 #87

Ain't that the truth. Puglover Sep 2013 #92

We're allowed to be pro-LGBT now that Obama is supporting it. Back when he was against it democrats liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #106

Many of the folks affecting great concern also refuse to join the Olympics boycott Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #108

^^^ THIS MNBrewer Sep 2013 #161

Yep. Glad someone else noticed it. n/t QC Sep 2013 #150

I've noticed that also, it's so heartwarming MNBrewer Sep 2013 #160

Wow! I'm honored to have my Op title in the second line of your awesome Op. trumad Sep 2013 #89

"...and some of my friends are black!" n/t backscatter712 Sep 2013 #100

Oh I forgot that trumad Sep 2013 #113

To be fair, I think the Putin-avatar-request post was made tongue-in-cheek... backscatter712 Sep 2013 #98

Just because I think Putin said some smart things in his editorial... backscatter712 Sep 2013 #101

I don't quite understand why two far apart issues get combined like that Xyzse Sep 2013 #104

Putin is a KGB Wannabe Dictator who is going to be remembered as such ./nt Drale Sep 2013 #105

Some of us have been speaking out against Russian anti gay laws since before Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #107

"Hey Earl G...can we have a Putin avatar?" KamaAina Sep 2013 #116

Now, now, that doesn't reconcile with... WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2013 #119

"I could give 2 shits about Syria right now." WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2013 #118

I interpereted the request for a Putin avatar as a smart-ass way to make a point. Throd Sep 2013 #121

There is a kind of fetichism about Putin...from left to the right, a lot of people have too Sand Wind Sep 2013 #133

I'm not LGBT myself(cis), and I was bothered by this as well. AverageJoe90 Sep 2013 #134

Making fun of Putins Bitch tits is anti-LGBT? Tveil Sep 2013 #140