Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
General Discussion
In reply to the discussion: G.D., Please accept my apology ... [View all]1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)38. I don't do the name-calling thing; but ...
Now, call me nuts (go ahead, you want to) but I'm here on Democratic Underground, aren't I? That since Inauguration day 2001, has been a liberal / left / progressive forum, right?
You forgot an important, named, demographic ... Maybe that explains things?
,,
I had to stop when you questioned the "peoplehood" of people that disagree with you ... picked back up at the end rank mark ...
You know, the only place I've seen anyone attacking Obama for working with Putin is in these posts you've made about it. I've seen several people making hte point that Putin was very much involved and sole credit really can't go to Obama...
Sole credit ... well that's quite generous ... I suspect most would say, someone "stumbling upon"/"being thrown a life-line"/"being forced by" internet warriors, gets none of the credit ... and that is what "these people" have been trying to point out. As this has been a hallmark of the Obama Presidency: for too many here, "President Obama has evil intent" ... and when their most dire predictions do not occur; rather than say, "Wow ... I was wrong on that", the response is "he got lucky it didn't work out the way I thought it would/he's not done trying/he would have done it if we hadn't stopped him", or my personal favorite, ignore that things didn't wotk out like predicted to point to a previous prediction made ... that didn't work out as predicted (see: the CCPI "debate"
That is what is getting/has gotten tiresome. And THAT is why. the BOG exists, as a counter-weight this crap.
Which is kinda strange, seeing as how up until three days ago, the BOGers were one John Kerry stump away from labeling Putin as the latest of this month's new Hitlers. You'd think if anyone would be upset with Obama, their cherished and beloved, working with that one... but then you remember, these "people" don't actually have principles.
There is so much in that section, but I'll sum it up as a complete, and stunning, misunderstanding of what governing in a democratic republic, or living in real life, entails. Sometimes you have to work with the "enemy" to accomplish things ... in this case, it's working with Putin (an undeniably evil man, imo) in order to rid/reduce the ME of chemical weapons ... it means working with republicans to provide healthcare insurance, etc.
I guess that explains why some claim the moral ground (and get a position to effect shouting); while other seek to get elected and get a position to effect change. One makes one FEEL good ... the other allows one to DO good ... President Obama, in my view represents the latter.
Skipped the last segment ... dunderhead? Really?
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
Recommendations
0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):
58 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
I remembered "paul" and a sense that Pitt and paul were on the same page
PowerToThePeople
Sep 2013
#6
That response is a chracterization of the other poster, an attack not a reply.
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2013
#54