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girl gone mad

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15. Pretending that its okay for DHS to spy on peaceful protestors..
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 09:36 PM
Feb 2012

because the movement was being "co-opted" makes absolutely no sense.

Spy on Black Bloc if that's the really the issue. But we all know that's not what happened. OWSers took pictures of anarchists and other provocateurs who showed up at protests and demanded that police arrest them. The provocateurs were completely ignored by the cops while peaceful OWSers were violently attacked.

You can apologize for police state thuggery if that is your wish. But you can't proclaim there was a need for this thuggery due to co-option and infiltration, when at best your "infiltrators" were a small band of outsiders who always remained at the fringes of the movement. Using your own logic, all that's necessary to sic the bloated government spy apparatus on any group or organization is paying a few guys in black to blend in and throw rocks.

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This message was self-deleted by its author MikeOlsen Feb 2012 #1
Kaboom! PuraVidaDreamin Feb 2012 #2
I'm glad we're so popular. I guess that is better than being ignored. mmonk Feb 2012 #3
Keep trying...nt SidDithers Feb 2012 #4
Keep trying to ignore facts and defend the indefensible. white_wolf Feb 2012 #35
Red Scare. 21st Century version. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2012 #5
How do you know when something is effective...? n/t Earth_First Feb 2012 #6
Nothing really scandalous there. FarLeftFist Feb 2012 #7
Not at all. randome Feb 2012 #17
Just another day in the Government monitoring its citizens as if they were terrorists Zalatix Feb 2012 #19
Read the article before you cry 'victim'. randome Feb 2012 #22
Right. Nothing to see here .... move along folks! And meanwhile .... Better Believe It Feb 2012 #28
And this proves what? randome Feb 2012 #31
Nothing to see here folks .... move along now. Everything is fine. And meanwhile .... Better Believe It Feb 2012 #33
What does any of this have to do with monitoring public information? randome Feb 2012 #36
Why do you trivialize government surveillance of political dissidents and protest organizations? Better Believe It Feb 2012 #41
No offense meant. I'm just here for an honest discussion. randome Mar 2012 #43
Spying? What government spying? Just a bunch of paranoid comminists, terriorists and pinkos! Better Believe It Feb 2012 #29
Not Surprised fascisthunter Feb 2012 #8
So OWS has been a success Cali_Democrat Feb 2012 #9
This ProSense Feb 2012 #10
Sure.. that's the ticket. girl gone mad Feb 2012 #11
Wait ProSense Feb 2012 #12
No, I'm saying that the only groups which were actively trying to "infiltrate" and "co-opt" OWS.. girl gone mad Feb 2012 #13
Oh ProSense Feb 2012 #14
Pretending that its okay for DHS to spy on peaceful protestors.. girl gone mad Feb 2012 #15
But the Black Bloc WERE present at some of these events AND have resorted to violence. FarLeftFist Feb 2012 #16
How do you know who is 'Black Bloc' and who is not? randome Feb 2012 #21
Same tired old excuse. randome Feb 2012 #18
No, Black Bloc is not OWS. girl gone mad Feb 2012 #24
And you know how to tell Black Bloc from, um, 'real' OWS, do you? randome Feb 2012 #26
Your ProSense Feb 2012 #20
You claimed the spying was okay because OWS was being "co-opted" girl gone mad Feb 2012 #23
They were monitoring social web sites. randome Feb 2012 #25
I ProSense Feb 2012 #27
Black Bloc is a tactic NOT discussed at any OO GA (other than to disavow it) thus, there is no Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #30
Stunning cognitive dissonance as to the Bloc's participation in OWS. joshcryer Mar 2012 #46
So the DHS is merely trying to protect OWS' reputation brentspeak Mar 2012 #53
I'm okay with this. The fed SHOULD keep an eye on organized groups protesting across... Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #32
Giving up our freedoms and liberties in order to stop a rapist or gunman is wonderful! Better Believe It Feb 2012 #37
'Giving up our freedoms'? You mean by posting on public web sites. randome Feb 2012 #38
What freedom do you think has been given up? We're still free to protest. Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #40
And the government is free to place you under surveillance for subversive activities .... Better Believe It Mar 2012 #44
Whatever...look I don't have a problem with this. vaberella Mar 2012 #42
Ok ok, so how shocked should I act now that some of the claims nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #34
Good. Then somebody knows just how fucking mad I am. lonestarnot Feb 2012 #39
Is this some lame attempt to get a waning movement back into the headlines? I don't even..... Tarheel_Dem Mar 2012 #45
I hope they spelled my name correctly. U4ikLefty Mar 2012 #47
I'm glad this OWS tomfoolery has quieted down Obamacare Mar 2012 #48
Well of course they did!!! Rex Mar 2012 #49
So when did it become necessary to defend the Bill of Rights on Democratic Underground .... Better Believe It Mar 2012 #50
Naomi Wolf: "U.S. is sleepwalking into becoming a police state ... the president can lock up anyone" Better Believe It Mar 2012 #51
I'm not surprised. Kind of feel sorry for those who honestly believe the Administration wasn't Justice wanted Mar 2012 #52
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