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iverglas

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90. and thus endeth any semblance of civil discourse

Reply to slackmaster (Reply #89)

Wed Feb 29, 2012, 09:42 PM

Feb 2012

I trust you will be putting me on ignore again. Please.

The subject of personality disorders seems to have stuck a nerve with you, iverglas

Astounding incivility. No, no, I vowed to stop feigning surprise ...

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Why are kids shooting other kids at school? [View all] undeterred Feb 2012 OP

If we had answers liberal N proud Feb 2012 #1

because it's so easy to get guns nt msongs Feb 2012 #2

No. Because kids have no respect for parents, teachers, or each other. Drahthaardogs Feb 2012 #24

and kids who have no respect for parents, teachers, or each other iverglas Feb 2012 #34

And easy problem solving by zapping the source of your discomfort is a huge part of Skidmore Feb 2012 #66

The only thing you said that made sense is about urban gun ownership. Drahthaardogs Feb 2012 #93

yeah, I'll try to do better next time iverglas Feb 2012 #95

I don't remember hearing marlakay Feb 2012 #3

It still happens. TheWraith Feb 2012 #5

Must not be paying attention notadmblnd Feb 2012 #7

In Europe, it's news because it happens so rarely. baldguy Feb 2012 #29

Usually because the kid is isolated, miserable, and alone. TheWraith Feb 2012 #4

+ + + + FedUpWithIt All Feb 2012 #32

Why does everyone pretend butterfly77 Feb 2012 #6

I agree. Too much focus on a few incidents for the most part. LiberalFighter Feb 2012 #12

Agreed. ellisonz Feb 2012 #21

Not only that, everyone keeps claiming it's a rising trend. (nt) Posteritatis Feb 2012 #87

I guess it will become important.. butterfly77 Feb 2012 #92

mental illness wendylaroux Feb 2012 #8

Maybe it's a consequence of school authorities ignoring bullying tularetom Feb 2012 #9

They said that yesterday undeterred Feb 2012 #17

Those two statements do not contradict one another. ieoeja Feb 2012 #39

^^^ bullying WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2012 #94

They misconstrue No Child Left Behind. rug Feb 2012 #10

because they can access guns.... mike_c Feb 2012 #11

agree 100% (nt) Tumbulu Feb 2012 #15

When I was in high school, I was on the school rifle team. We carried our guns into school Faze Lock Feb 2012 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author ellisonz Feb 2012 #22

I know what I think is pretty stupid iverglas Feb 2012 #35

If that's so, why were there so much fewer school shootings 40+ years ago. Angleae Feb 2012 #25

Yet gun violence in America is at historic lows hack89 Feb 2012 #31

The 1990's were the deadly years for school shootings. hack89 Feb 2012 #37

School shootings in Chicago in the '80s was so common, it didn't even make front page news. ieoeja Feb 2012 #40

a question on that, though iverglas Feb 2012 #53

They're angry, they give themselves permission and we as a society aid them in that. MichiganVote Feb 2012 #13

Ever since Columbine there has been an example undeterred Feb 2012 #19

In one sentence pecwae Feb 2012 #27

Wow. Robb Feb 2012 #84

Mental illness cyglet Feb 2012 #14

"Well, sir, I guess there's just a meanness in this world." deutsey Feb 2012 #16

In this case, it may have been because the shooter's former girlfriend... SidDithers Feb 2012 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author FedUpWithIt All Feb 2012 #33

Bill Maher on the Gun Culture ellisonz Feb 2012 #23

+1000 baldguy Feb 2012 #30

because guns are a quick way for the powerless to feel powerful LadyHawkAZ Feb 2012 #26

Forced Moment of Silence and recitation of The Pledge of Allegiance Tom Ripley Feb 2012 #28

You probably also didn't have school hot lunches or breakfast..... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2012 #78

It is built into the culture in the US: "guns solve problems". AlinPA Feb 2012 #36

Because they're angry and have access to firearms. MineralMan Feb 2012 #38

I would just note... ellisonz Feb 2012 #45

Both have been used in these shootings. MineralMan Feb 2012 #48

School shootings and where students got their guns iverglas Feb 2012 #41

Bingo. ellisonz Feb 2012 #46

I don't think it's anything new DefenseLawyer Feb 2012 #42

Perhaps because they're ... GeorgeGist Feb 2012 #43

Sometimes things happen. Things thay we may, or may not, have the power ScreamingMeemie Feb 2012 #44

Why are adults shooting other adults at health clubs? Chorophyll Feb 2012 #47

People are willing to talk about the firearms. MineralMan Feb 2012 #49

that's a bit of a false dichotomy iverglas Feb 2012 #56

Laws regarding storage won't mean that firearms MineralMan Feb 2012 #62

I guess I didn't type what I thought I'd typed iverglas Feb 2012 #68

And you've misunderstood me. MineralMan Feb 2012 #74

the thing is iverglas Feb 2012 #77

Actually, I'm suggesting firearms should be banned. Chorophyll Feb 2012 #67

well, I'm sure that all the people iverglas Feb 2012 #69

There are reasonable firearm bans in western Europe, Chorophyll Mar 2012 #105

I'm in Canada iverglas Mar 2012 #108

What other amendments would you like to scrub? The 1st amendment definitely needs some more Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #70

You should read the entire amendment, which has something to do with militias Chorophyll Mar 2012 #102

I believe the Supreme Court has taken up that case from time to time and ruled that it applies to Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #106

You mean like in those peaceful countries Mexico & Jamaica where guns are banned? n/t EX500rider Mar 2012 #100

No Stewie. I was thinking more of Western Europe, Chorophyll Mar 2012 #104

US kills more without guns then the W Europeans do with guns.. EX500rider Mar 2012 #107

actually, if that's the case I'm thinking of, iverglas Feb 2012 #51

Yes, I remember this. But there was a shooting at a health club just last week, Chorophyll Feb 2012 #65

Because our society carefully teaches that might makes right gratuitous Feb 2012 #50

Generally, they're not. slackmaster Feb 2012 #52

generally, that really is not true iverglas Feb 2012 #58

Malignant narcissism most certainly is a mental disorder. slackmaster Feb 2012 #63

now, what did I say? iverglas Feb 2012 #71

Gerb-chibble. Personality disorders are among the most destructive mental illnesses slackmaster Feb 2012 #76

lordy iverglas Feb 2012 #79

Go argue with any psychiatrist or psychologist about what "mental illness" means slackmaster Feb 2012 #80

and you can check out the new DSM coming out next year iverglas Feb 2012 #81

Mentally healthy people don't kill random innocent people slackmaster Feb 2012 #83

seriously: "mentally ill" and "not nice" are not the same things iverglas Feb 2012 #85

The subject of personality disorders seems to have struck a nerve with you, iverglas slackmaster Feb 2012 #89

and thus endeth any semblance of civil discourse iverglas Feb 2012 #90

Wait, are you seriously trying to claim that a personality disorder is not mental illness? Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #86

I hear they'r esaying iverglas Feb 2012 #91

It's obviously because we took prayer out of schools. FedUp_Queer Feb 2012 #54

What makes a kid do this? Guns. kctim Feb 2012 #55

what an odd notion iverglas Feb 2012 #57

Yes, blaming the gun is indeed very odd kctim Feb 2012 #59

I absolutely agree! iverglas Feb 2012 #61

Riiiiiiiiiight kctim Feb 2012 #72

here's a thought iverglas Feb 2012 #73

No way! Oyster secretions must be held emphatically! 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2012 #97

You are of course correct kctim Mar 2012 #98

you are absolutely right! iverglas Mar 2012 #99

Denialism. n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #88

They're sick of being bullied and want to show everyone they're powerful. BlueDemKev Feb 2012 #60

Movies / TV. We must have more regulation immediately. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #64

The kid is not well. YellowRubberDuckie Feb 2012 #75

Either bad parents/family, or an untreated mental condition (which is ALSO a Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #82

Guns much easier to get in the 1940's, 50's, 60's - lynne Mar 2012 #96

Because kids are humans Taverner Mar 2012 #101

They don't like Mondays and it livens up the day. AngryAmish Mar 2012 #103