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94. Winning a bad lawsuit will not remove the mother's responsibility for the death of her child

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Zoo: Boy's mauling death is mom's fault (she lifted him to railing for better look at wild dogs) [View all] Liberal_in_LA Sep 2013 OP

The zoo has a point. nt geek tragedy Sep 2013 #1

Attorney is saying zoo should have known parents would hold children up for better look Liberal_in_LA Sep 2013 #2

How much is the zoo supposed to protect people from their own stupidity? geek tragedy Sep 2013 #3

image of how she stood kids on railings, also photo of railings, slanted so parents won't do that Liberal_in_LA Sep 2013 #12

The computer-generated image at the top is incredibly deceptive magical thyme Sep 2013 #73

the zoo had signs up not to climb or sit or stand on the railing. magical thyme Sep 2013 #72

Except that the railings liberalhistorian Sep 2013 #31

The protection was more than adequate NickB79 Sep 2013 #47

That's the conclusory language plaintiffs will use. geek tragedy Sep 2013 #49

Just about everthing in life has a 'typical standard of care' attached to it. wercal Sep 2013 #79

The zoo is correct. scheming daemons Sep 2013 #4

Correct. greytdemocrat Sep 2013 #6

Absolutely agree with you. When this happened, I heard the arguments that "everyone else does it" livetohike Sep 2013 #7

I've never been there Politicalboi Sep 2013 #20

She is disputing that she put him on the top of liberalhistorian Sep 2013 #32

Pull up the statements from the police report NickB79 Sep 2013 #45

I hate to sound cold, but I STRONGLY suspect that this is exactly what happened. anneboleyn Sep 2013 #110

Exactly. Furthermore, there is no way that her toddler "lunged" over that railing magical thyme Sep 2013 #117

This seems to be a dispute over the facts of the case, which likely will merit a trial. n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2013 #5

pegging the b.s. meter leftyohiolib Sep 2013 #8

The railing is about 3.5 to 4 feet high..... scheming daemons Sep 2013 #11

maybe the railing should be high enough people can't fall in. liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #21

A) You have to see over it... and B) Maybe we shouldn't worry about protecting people from their own scheming daemons Sep 2013 #22

This would be a case of protecting a child from someone else's negligence. n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2013 #23

then maybe they should redesign the exhibit. The truth is both are responsible. She shouldn't have liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #25

you're wrong, they are not both responsible the mother is. the zoo put up barriers she tried to get leftyohiolib Sep 2013 #29

I disagree. The railings were sufficient. Warpy Sep 2013 #82

The zoo did have barriers to protect the public. Everybody avebury Sep 2013 #108

a 4' high railing is high enough to not fall over magical thyme Sep 2013 #74

A typical railing for a drop off over 42" is ....42" wercal Sep 2013 #81

Nobody fell in. The child was dropped in. Mariana Sep 2013 #99

A two-year-old did not just "fall in." He was lifted up according to witnesses anneboleyn Sep 2013 #111

Better grasp? Really? liberalhistorian Sep 2013 #34

Kids dying makes people have pretty strong emotions. kcr Sep 2013 #35

no she shouldnt have put her child up there leftyohiolib Sep 2013 #37

Why the lawsuit? LiberalAndProud Sep 2013 #58

Which is all the more reason she shouldn't have done it. Xithras Sep 2013 #62

I've got a pretty good idea... Bay Boy Sep 2013 #83

By Suing The Zoo RobinA Sep 2013 #92

Have you had kids? I have. Sissyk Sep 2013 #96

One more case of shitty parent blaming others for the outcome. we can do it Sep 2013 #9

Ask any retailer or teacher Link Speed Sep 2013 #104

I think the zoo has a good point. HappyMe Sep 2013 #10

Agree with the Zoo. idwiyo Sep 2013 #13

There was a similar tragedy years ago in New Orleans. madaboutharry Sep 2013 #14

What was the outcome of that situation (any legal actions)? n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2013 #59

people are so stupid around wild animals VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #85

I feel awful for the mom eissa Sep 2013 #15

In the article it states court of public opinion is against the zoo kcr Sep 2013 #16

Perhps people should be Politicalboi Sep 2013 #18

+1 000 000 000 kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #44

The "court of public opinion" only sees one thing HolyMoley Sep 2013 #78

Yes. Law vs. emotion and mob rule anneboleyn Sep 2013 #112

I could not hold the zoo MFM008 Sep 2013 #17

She wanted her child to interact with wild dogs?? REP Sep 2013 #19

This reminds me of a boy who was killed by a crocodile RebelOne Sep 2013 #24

Just to ask a new question - how much experience is there with this type of exhibit design hedgehog Sep 2013 #26

Several years ago, a gorilla escaped from the zoo in Boston Tanuki Sep 2013 #38

I believe she'll be allowed to sue... TeeYiYi Sep 2013 #61

I don't know. kcr Sep 2013 #67

It sounds like it was either a 10 foot or 14 foot separation from the dogs. noamnety Sep 2013 #71

The 4' fence also had a 10'+ drop to the inside magical thyme Sep 2013 #76

Exactly. She situated a two year old over a long drop AND wild animals anneboleyn Sep 2013 #113

She held him over African dogs? SMH LittleBlue Sep 2013 #27

pic of african dogs Liberal_in_LA Sep 2013 #39

Yikes! I would NOT liberalhistorian Sep 2013 #88

a zoo in albq, i put my little one on the rail, wrapped both arms around and hug him against my body seabeyond Sep 2013 #28

I agree with the zoo. nt Raine Sep 2013 #30

Sometimes when my kids were that age or even a little older deutsey Sep 2013 #33

"Feet on the ground" aikoaiko Sep 2013 #36

+1 -- it's a simple rule that avoids all kinds of problems. n/t X_Digger Sep 2013 #42

Does anyone actually blame the mother for pursuing this? Orrex Sep 2013 #40

She is suing the zoo because she does not avebury Sep 2013 #46

She is hardly unusual in any of that Orrex Sep 2013 #52

Yes. Great points. anneboleyn Sep 2013 #115

yes. i would take responsibility for it. no, i would not go after the zoo. would not even be a seabeyond Sep 2013 #48

I believe you. Orrex Sep 2013 #53

Her case is still rubbish. geek tragedy Sep 2013 #50

Obviously, I would say. Orrex Sep 2013 #54

I can completely understand the lawsuit on a geek tragedy Sep 2013 #55

Again I agree completely (nt) Orrex Sep 2013 #64

*Raises hand.* Her lawyer's argument seems to be: All exhibits should function the exact same way. WinkyDink Sep 2013 #56

Well, he's an asshole and a parasite. Orrex Sep 2013 #65

I agree with you for the most part ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #63

Also true (nt) Orrex Sep 2013 #66

I don't blame the mother for pursuing it kcr Sep 2013 #68

I do. Her child is dead because of her stupidity. Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #70

Then blame everyone who does exactly the same thing Orrex Sep 2013 #89

I do. I don't think the public should have to suffer by having their zoo defunded because this... JVS Sep 2013 #84

I think you understate the magnitude of her suffering Orrex Sep 2013 #90

"And I equally think that the zoo was never in any real danger of being defunded."q JVS Sep 2013 #91

The zoo was never in any real danger of being defunded Orrex Sep 2013 #93

Did the open mocking start because of the incident - Ms. Toad Sep 2013 #107

The very first threads I could find about it on DU attacked the mother Orrex Sep 2013 #116

Terrible tragedy. Bad decision by a parent... TeeYiYi Sep 2013 #41

Zoo 1, Mom 0. *bang* Next case, please. TheCowsCameHome Sep 2013 #43

yep. nt bunnies Sep 2013 #51

I agree with the zoo, mom is at fault. Shrike47 Sep 2013 #57

how tragic. even without the dogs, that's quite a dangerous high drop to risk Sunlei Sep 2013 #60

So. She picked up her kid and dropped him over the fence into the wild dog enclosure. Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #69

In lighter news--this rabbit was thrown in a tiger cage and got away. gvstn Sep 2013 #75

I gotta go with the zoo on this one. Unrepentant Fenian Sep 2013 #77

Yep, justice denied HolyMoley Sep 2013 #80

i blame Darwin. nt FreeJoe Sep 2013 #86

I usually am the first to talk about personal accountability... Monster_Mash Sep 2013 #87

4 foot is a common height for a railing. kcr Sep 2013 #95

Winning a bad lawsuit will not remove the mother's responsibility for the death of her child TeamPooka Sep 2013 #94

I will not join in the gang-pummeling of this mother. Sheldon Cooper Sep 2013 #97

This is the problem with thinking the zoo needs to "take a closer look" kcr Sep 2013 #98

It is her son who paid the "horrible, hideous price." Let's be clear on that. And the mother isn't WinkyDink Sep 2013 #100

It pays to read - They were warned on several occasions by zoo employees Iris Sep 2013 #103

I agree with the zoo Yo_Mama Sep 2013 #101

This mother should be charged with criminal negligence and sent to jail. darkangel218 Sep 2013 #102

Just my opinion YarnAddict Sep 2013 #105

I disagree. Even in they settle for $1 and report it as avebury Sep 2013 #106

It absolutely is her fault YarnAddict Sep 2013 #109

Mom needs to accept that she made a tragic error. The zoo did not. TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #114