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laundry_queen

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59. It started quite young for me also
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 06:54 PM
Sep 2013

except in the end I WAS date raped and assaulted, likely because I was shy and submissive and had been bullied by my parents my whole life, and I didn't know how to stand up for myself or even how to disobey a direct command by someone.

I was around 11 when the harassment first started with being grabbed and kissed by some older teens at a party across the street (I was playing in the park adjacent to the house). At 12 my 'boyfriend's' (in quotes because we liked each other but weren't serious) dad was always hugging me. At 13 the father I was babysitting for was hitting on me non stop, telling me I had a great body. At 14, my manager at the restaurant I worked at grabbed my ass and boobs on a regular basis. Kept asking me when I was going to marry him. When I was 16, my brother's 45 year old married hockey coach groped me and called me hot.

This doesn't even include the stupid whistles, obscene gestures, propositions from random men on the street, or from the groping and harassment from boys my age.

The 'nice guys' you refer to remind me of my parents. They said I was always 'exaggerating' and was told those guys 'didn't mean anything by doing that' and that I was being 'too sensitive'. The message I got: you deserve what is happening to you. The other message I got was that I should enjoy the attention because I was lucky to get it.
It's all bullshit.

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I understand your anger and frustration... mike_c Sep 2013 #1
Regarding my latest hidden post. Quantess Sep 2013 #2
You were a juror on your own alerted post? How did that happen? Comrade Grumpy Sep 2013 #5
Nope. Someone alerted on Doctor_J's OP. Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #9
Thanks, you described it better than I did BuelahWitch Sep 2013 #13
ah-- thanks.... mike_c Sep 2013 #29
Not the least bit surprised to see such a sufrommich Sep 2013 #34
I was juror #4, I voted to hide the post. I thought it was creepy. hunter Sep 2013 #37
I had no idea we even had a Men's Group. KamaAina Sep 2013 #48
It is a similar crowd to the "Gungeon" intaglio Sep 2013 #53
I will say one thing for it KamaAina Sep 2013 #58
It's full of people who advocate for things like satanic human sacrifice, and cannibalism. Honest. Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #88
And serve roasted baby on Mondays. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #91
It's the Group W Bench, is what it is. Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #92
Only Mondays? KamaAina Sep 2013 #93
No, but there are plenty of rape apologists intaglio Sep 2013 #108
Please prove your allegation with links. Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #109
The forum itself is evidence intaglio Sep 2013 #111
yeah Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #112
Oh, you don't read critically? intaglio Sep 2013 #114
One rape is too many, I'm sure we agree there. Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #115
That health insurance was unfairly expensive to men BainsBane Sep 2013 #161
Pffft....who cares about that???? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #141
I like to keep them where they belong: on ignore. Squinch Sep 2013 #144
There is a Women's Rights & Issues group. polly7 Sep 2013 #66
i dunno. asking how young one can sexualize a girl seems like it pretty well is effecting the girls seabeyond Sep 2013 #67
Wtf are you talking about? nt. polly7 Sep 2013 #68
A creepy OP in the Men's Group which I believe has now been deleted... nomorenomore08 Sep 2013 #113
How was that a response to my question to the poster I asked it of? polly7 Sep 2013 #156
The original OP came off as creepy, even if the poster's intentions may have been relatively benign. nomorenomore08 Sep 2013 #157
Yeah, I get that. polly7 Sep 2013 #158
For the record, I tend to bounce pretty freely between the Men's Group and HoF. nomorenomore08 Sep 2013 #159
lol you're not babbling. polly7 Sep 2013 #160
best thing that ever happened to me BainsBane Sep 2013 #149
My nickname in middle school and high school (before I quit) was "queerbait." hunter Sep 2013 #152
sigh... ya know. seabeyond Sep 2013 #153
Sometimes you just have to do pintobean Sep 2013 #50
because its time people get their rear tail feathers out of that place Stargazer99 Sep 2013 #3
it is broadcast here because it is political Stargazer99 Sep 2013 #4
It isn't exactly political, except it COULD BE Quantess Sep 2013 #7
Yeah that is sad that they are doing that Harmony Blue Sep 2013 #8
I love your OP, and your hidden post, but I disagree on one thing: I think it's very political. Squinch Sep 2013 #38
A big plus 1000 for this. nt Nay Sep 2013 #154
self-delete (dupe) pnwmom Sep 2013 #12
Why the hell not broadcast it here? With all the men on this site, don't you think pnwmom Sep 2013 #16
thanks for answering.... mike_c Sep 2013 #27
yes SwampG8r Sep 2013 #101
I've noticed the same phenomenon of daughters pnwmom Sep 2013 #102
Oh, so right on. Now, I have had a lifetime of mostly boys and men. seabeyond Sep 2013 #103
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #6
It was about an OP regarding finding young females sexually attractive BuelahWitch Sep 2013 #11
except to women Precisely Sep 2013 #15
Do you really need a list of all the ways men sexually harass girls on the streets? pnwmom Sep 2013 #18
I am an older man and I feel no man has the right to upaloopa Sep 2013 #55
People in our generation can help just by making our sons and grandsons and brothers aware. pnwmom Sep 2013 #56
no offense, but your "giant reserve of anger" is not likely the reason you were cali Sep 2013 #10
Calmly stated: what causes you to say these are "bullshit claims"? Quantess Sep 2013 #14
LOL. hardly. I got a lot of attention from men cali Sep 2013 #41
What it is you are complaining about, exactly? Quantess Sep 2013 #65
why so hostile? Precisely Sep 2013 #17
What bullshit claims? Are you suggesting that sexual harassment on the street isn't real pnwmom Sep 2013 #21
no, I'm suggesting that the poster's claim that she was never sexually assaulted cali Sep 2013 #42
I disagree laundry_queen Sep 2013 #54
yes, she is completely off base. while she is correct that tough women also get attacked and bettyellen Sep 2013 #131
you missed "probably." and the context Precisely Sep 2013 #85
You need to talk to someone about this anger I think. Not healthy. n-t Logical Sep 2013 #19
Getting in touch with her anger about this could very well be healthy. pnwmom Sep 2013 #30
Your comment lacks empathy. n-t Quantess Sep 2013 #33
She is talking to someone about the anger. It's very healthy. And it's pretty common. Squinch Sep 2013 #39
Agreed. Oddly, street harassment seems more of an East Coast than West Coast phenomenon. Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #20
I grew up on the east coast. I've noticed there was less of it here in the west coast, pnwmom Sep 2013 #22
the West Coast is so much more segregated, so you are probably referring to bettyellen Sep 2013 #25
Actually, that observation has been made repeatedly Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #26
women get harassed because they are perceived as lower status across the board, and it bettyellen Sep 2013 #31
That doesn't really have anything to do with what I was saying, but okay. Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #32
I grew up in a middle to upper-middle class east coast town where the kids did walk. pnwmom Sep 2013 #35
I do think more women fight back these days. But it's often a matter of opportunity. bettyellen Sep 2013 #45
When a girl is 12, 13, 14 yrs old she is so inexperienced with standing up for herself seabeyond Sep 2013 #60
very true. I was disgusted a few years ago when a 35+ yr old man made a very suggestive remark to my bettyellen Sep 2013 #134
my well endowed 12 yr old niece was out to dinner with one of my friends and a friend of hers. seabeyond Sep 2013 #137
I hear you, and you are not lying, Q. Ghost Dog Sep 2013 #23
Some asshole exposed himself to my wife on the streets of DC a few years ago. Her response ... 11 Bravo Sep 2013 #24
I was tall for my age so it started for me when I was a preteen -- 12 or maybe even 11. pnwmom Sep 2013 #28
It started for me at 10 PasadenaTrudy Sep 2013 #36
And I'm sure you weren't the only one. Most girls now have at least started developing pnwmom Sep 2013 #47
Thank you... icarusxat Sep 2013 #76
I have great men in my life PasadenaTrudy Sep 2013 #94
You are not lying intaglio Sep 2013 #40
+1 Squinch Sep 2013 #44
^^^^^^ Precisely Sep 2013 #86
One other note: do you think any of those men who do harass girls have any idea how Squinch Sep 2013 #43
I bet they don't. We're supposed to appreciate the attention, no matter how young we are. n/t pnwmom Sep 2013 #46
yes, there is something wrong with us if we don't like it JI7 Sep 2013 #49
Blech. Just thinking about how that feels when you are confronted with one of those assholes Squinch Sep 2013 #73
they know Precisely Sep 2013 #87
agreed. that is the point and why a guy cant talk himself out of just what it is. they know. seabeyond Sep 2013 #90
I know what you are talking about: those guys who block the sidewalk, Squinch Sep 2013 #142
as men continually tell us, all us young women are biologically made up to go for the old fart with seabeyond Sep 2013 #147
I don't think they care. JoeyT Sep 2013 #107
wish I could rec your post. nt raccoon Sep 2013 #117
Exactly Precisely Sep 2013 #123
it mostly is around other men. it really is all about showing off to their peers. the girl/woman is seabeyond Sep 2013 #126
power Precisely Sep 2013 #127
always. dominance, control. nt seabeyond Sep 2013 #129
yep. I have caught a few guy friends acting out in disturbing ways and boy were they upset bettyellen Sep 2013 #143
Rec'd hotrod0808 Sep 2013 #51
Sorry you've had to endure some of that degrading crap. It can be quite scary. BlueJazz Sep 2013 #52
that was a fuckin ridiculous fuckin hide for you from inablers to allow the boys to play at will... seabeyond Sep 2013 #57
Because going into a group.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #78
Except, that's not what happened. pintobean Sep 2013 #80
Telling everyone who replied to the OP to "fuck off" is abusive.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #82
Her post was hidden pintobean Sep 2013 #84
Bullshit, and I have zero intention of self-deleting anything ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #138
she posted a jury result. try again. i have yet to see any poster get a post hidden for posting seabeyond Sep 2013 #81
Abusive jury comments, even when not made public are not tolerated here as far as I know ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #139
bullshit. seems who is being called out in a comment. nt seabeyond Sep 2013 #146
sexually creepy is good for business Precisely Sep 2013 #124
absolutely. i think that is why it is so hard for the men to address when they are in leadership. seabeyond Sep 2013 #128
it's equal opportunity exploitation these days. Precisely Sep 2013 #130
It started quite young for me also laundry_queen Sep 2013 #59
Harassment is rampant and it grinds people down. Stop it, folks: Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #61
luv this. an absolute fav. and so point on. thank you. nt seabeyond Sep 2013 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author Cronus Protagonist Sep 2013 #62
lots of pictures. a little reading. but little words, so should be good to go. lots of pics. seabeyond Sep 2013 #64
This message was self-deleted by its author Cronus Protagonist Sep 2013 #96
Did you really just say that? Sheldon Cooper Sep 2013 #75
I lol'd LittleBlue Sep 2013 #83
I have no idea Cronus Protagonist Sep 2013 #97
Most excellent LittleBlue Sep 2013 #98
Dude's post was self deleted because he realized how turd-like it made him appear. Squinch Sep 2013 #145
Not appropriate. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #89
To grown men who sexually harrass teenagers: Rex Sep 2013 #69
I've never even witnessed this phenomenon, I don't think... devils chaplain Sep 2013 #70
They don't do it when a woman (or a girl) is with a man. Squinch Sep 2013 #74
Exactly, because a woman alone is "public property." A woman with a man raccoon Sep 2013 #118
Bingo. And a woman alone is "asking for it" by virtue of not having attached herself to a man. Squinch Sep 2013 #140
Cool vid makes the point: Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #71
just get tired... another very good piece from you. thank you. nt seabeyond Sep 2013 #77
This message was self-deleted by its author Cronus Protagonist Sep 2013 #99
Here Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #116
he does not give a shit. just jumped in to derail. sorry you though him sincere. nt seabeyond Sep 2013 #121
It's OK. He fighting a battle from another thread and dragged it in here. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #132
i see. thanks for the explanation. nt seabeyond Sep 2013 #135
Summary of the Bible Precisely Sep 2013 #136
Summary of the bible Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #148
some people arely staircase Sep 2013 #72
Men really need to learn to keep it in their pants. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #79
How bout grown women? grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #95
How "very small" is that percentage? Recursion Sep 2013 #100
I explained in another post pnwmom Sep 2013 #104
I don't think it is so small BainsBane Sep 2013 #150
It's disgusting. ForgoTheConsequence Sep 2013 #105
I learned "nice guy" at my parents' knees. longship Sep 2013 #106
Nature had determined that I would Le Taz Hot Sep 2013 #110
A major, major benefit of being old. Sure I miss the strength and resilience I used to have eridani Sep 2013 #119
Both these replies Precisely Sep 2013 #125
Gotta agree there. The lack of harassment after the age of about 40 was SO SO wonderful. A major Nay Sep 2013 #155
A-FUCKING-MEN!!! Lunacee_2013 Sep 2013 #120
K&R nt MrScorpio Sep 2013 #122
Hopefully LWolf Sep 2013 #133
Quantess. Just wanted to let you know BainsBane Sep 2013 #151
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