G.D., Please accept my apology ...

[Scootaloo]

40. Oh yes, the right-wing Democrats

'Cause once you separate the left, the liberals, and the progressives from the Democrats, that's what you're left with, isn't it? The Liebermans of the party.

Except ol' Joementum, at least he seems capable of independent thought, even if it's only in the crudest shape of solitary self-interest. These posters have abdicated their ability to think beyond "the president, therefore good!" For all their frothing about how the left is "the new tea party!" these dumb motherfuckers - is that better than "persons" in quote marks, you think? - have much more in common with those knee-jerking reactionary authoritarian stooges who couldn't think their way out of an open door.

Tell me 1SBM, who is "most"? Now that you point out the specifics (good for you, you're advancing!) I can say I've seen your examples. A few of them. Hardly the plague you are characterizing it as.

That is what is getting/has gotten tiresome. And THAT is why. the BOG exists, as a counter-weight this crap.

I'll grant maybe I'm taking it a bit personal. But you know, since I've been on DU, I've been on Obama's side. I've defended his positions and policies as best as I can (which I'll grant, might not have always been that well) I've argued against the people attributing malicious intent to him - and still do.

However I couldn't take his side on Syria. I know too much about Syria to do so. No military operation we performed there, big or small, long or short, would ever do anything except cause more harm. And for this betrayal, this terrible backstabbing, I'm now an Obama-hating, right-wing extremist who wants to gas people, a fascist (?!) and Republican who wants Chris Cristie to waltz into office in January of 2017, and all these other things... because I refused to join the BOGgers howling for fire and blood in Syria. In fact I was even banned from the BOG, not for anything said about Obama, but simply pointing out to a poster who was demanding strikes to help the refugees, that missiles don't actually help refugees.

Whatever the BOG's original purpose, it seems to have devolved into a placewhere pro-war, anti-left jackasses get to have an echo chamber. Maybe it's bad management, I dunno, but when I see a culture of attacking other DU'ers and liberals for not being sufficiently blood-thirsty, then banning them if they attempt to rebut? I'm going to dismiss the place as a new right-wing echo chamber on DU and call the people there swamp trolls, and happily express my sentiments that they can self-fornicate until they drop dead of dehydration.

There is so much in that section, but I'll sum it up as a complete, and stunning, misunderstanding of what governing in a democratic republic, or living in real life, entails. Sometimes you have to work with the "enemy" to accomplish things ... in this case, it's working with Putin (an undeniably evil man, imo) in order to rid/reduce the ME of chemical weapons ... it means working with republicans to provide healthcare insurance, etc.

Yup, I'm not arguing that. I expect world leaders to work together. YOU were the one arguing that people are attacking Obama for working with Putin, which I still have not seen.

Rather, I was pointing out that as you see - by your own words - Putin as an absolutely evil person, shouldn't you, by principle, be upset by Obama working with him? Were you upset by the Donnie McClurkin thing? You weren't upset by the notion of a wrongheaded move to get involved in the Syrian civil war at high cost with no benefit, on Obama's say-so. Point is... you don't actually seem to have principles. You just follow the leader.