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92. For those of you who were down in the dumps claiming nothing would change....

Fri Sep 13, 2013, 11:06 PM

Sep 2013

This proves Michael Moore was correct. I sat and watched him say it on either Ed Show, or with Rachel. Forgot which it was around Spring time. He stated that this generation is going to make changes. Things are going to improve. Bummer it has to happen really slow. Nonetheless, it also proves that publicly funded (that is what I heard on MSNBC this week) campaigns DO WORK! We still have to work our asses off the undo Citizens U. But to those who thought it was over, you should have listened to Michael Moore. I didn't think he was a philosopher either, but maybe he was before he started making documentaries. This is encouraging. And while I'm thinking of it, do people really want another possible 8 years of someone who may have that DLC mentality with the last name "Clinton"? I thought "new and fresh" was the overriding belief?

So lets talk about "new and fresh".

Who was the dark horse in 04? A former governor from Vermont.

Who is the dark horse in 16?

Could it be a Senator from Massachusetts.

If this is what we want, lets do what Ed says: "Lets get to work".

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A New Brand of Democrat That Could Mean Trouble for Hillary... [View all] polichick Sep 2013 OP

Keep us updated! Peacetrain Sep 2013 #1

They're beginning the segment with de Blasio in NYC polichick Sep 2013 #2

I will check back in 15 minutes.. Peacetrain Sep 2013 #5

You're very welcome. It's good news! polichick Sep 2013 #10

Just finished reading the link.. very very informative Peacetrain Sep 2013 #26

You're right about millennials... polichick Sep 2013 #28

Ah Yep! Peacetrain Sep 2013 #31

I know - it's really scary to think of what they're inheriting... polichick Sep 2013 #33

Gotta work together for sure Peacetrain Sep 2013 #53

Well, this boomer has a couple of grown millennials..... socialist_n_TN Sep 2013 #104

The millennials in my family are thinking that way too... polichick Sep 2013 #105

Well as the article said, millennials favor socialism as an economic system...... socialist_n_TN Sep 2013 #106

Peter Beinart writes about a new coalition... polichick Sep 2013 #3

This is spot on. reformist2 Sep 2013 #47

The link you provided was an extremely compelling read. mick063 Sep 2013 #84

Is that Feet-on-the-desk Rightwing Nutjob Sippy Cup still on that panel? MADem Sep 2013 #4

She's been replaced by Abby Huntsman, who is enjoyable imo. polichick Sep 2013 #9

Abby is more rational and reasonable. LiberalFighter Sep 2013 #83

Nope. She moved to CNN. KamaAina Sep 2013 #43

That was a good move....gotta wonder if she jumped, or she was PUSHED! MADem Sep 2013 #52

It's about millennials and inequality - both economic and racial. polichick Sep 2013 #6

the new left. Yeah baby! liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #7

They're saying millennials really get it - they're well educated and also... polichick Sep 2013 #8

I think their anti-establishment attitude will definitely help shake things up. liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #11

This is from Beinart's article: polichick Sep 2013 #13

Please please let it be so LondonReign2 Sep 2013 #32

"...between the yard lines Reagan and Clinton set out." Maedhros Sep 2013 #74

I recommend watching the film "The Inheritance" (1964) to young folks (and others). Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #85

Can you tell me more about this movie? ProfessorPlum Sep 2013 #96

I googled around and found it. If I had my laptop, I Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #100

Thank you ProfessorPlum Sep 2013 #102

Yay! Harmony Blue Sep 2013 #71

Daily Beast: The Rise of the New New Left - "Maybe Bill de Blasio got lucky." pampango Sep 2013 #12

Thanks - I was just reading it. Very good piece! polichick Sep 2013 #14

This is good analysis, and correct about the changing politics DontTreadOnMe Sep 2013 #78

Thanks for the post. I read it. It is crucial that what ever happens... Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #87

Kicking and Reccing to read later. nt Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2013 #15

What happens in 2016 depends on what happens this year and 2014. . . DinahMoeHum Sep 2013 #16

Yes, they have to vote - but imo they also are able to find new ways... polichick Sep 2013 #20

If democrats want the Millennial vote then they need to do things that will help Millennials like liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #21

"So, if democrats want their vote they will have to do the work and earn their vote." polichick Sep 2013 #23

You know, it's time for older democrats to realize nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #30

I think that realization is going to have to be knocked into them by the kids... JHB Sep 2013 #42

The notion that the voters need to adjust their idealogy to match the Party, Maedhros Sep 2013 #75

No shit! blackspade Sep 2013 #93

Nothing will change if... highmindedhavi Sep 2013 #17

I agree - it should be a people financed campaign, via the internet. polichick Sep 2013 #19

Awesome read. Thanks for sharing. Capt. Obvious Sep 2013 #18

You're very welcome. It's exciting - makes me feel hopeful! polichick Sep 2013 #22

It's hard to get hopeful for Corey Booker though Capt. Obvious Sep 2013 #24

Yeah, Beinart summed him up pretty well... polichick Sep 2013 #25

The rise of the new left can't come soon enough for me Downtown Hound Sep 2013 #27

I'm with you - and I think a lot of people are just waiting for... polichick Sep 2013 #29

Excellent article! Vinnie From Indy Sep 2013 #34

Yes, it is sort of a road map - wonder if he'll come out with a book. polichick Sep 2013 #50

Trouble, maybe. For Hillary, no. brooklynite Sep 2013 #35

Perhaps the answer for millennials (and others) is NOT to deal with... polichick Sep 2013 #36

But that's still the party structure... brooklynite Sep 2013 #37

As someone who's worked within the party since the 70s... polichick Sep 2013 #39

+1 Marr Sep 2013 #48

Very true. polichick Sep 2013 #62

What "other way"? brooklynite Sep 2013 #59

Don't want to break the rules - the guys who run this place have been... polichick Sep 2013 #61

You need money to ''influence their policy decisions.'' Octafish Sep 2013 #98

She going to be running wilsonbooks Sep 2013 #58

DURec leftstreet Sep 2013 #38

I think Hillary Clinton Mr.Bill Sep 2013 #40

could be interesting gopiscrap Sep 2013 #41

Well we already know what kind of Democrats are not needed or wanted here. n/t L0oniX Sep 2013 #44

Best-written political article in a while. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2013 #45

You make a great point! For years one of the first topics of conversation when getting maddiemom Sep 2013 #65

OOPsS! Having LIVED through those years. maddiemom Sep 2013 #66

Hillary needs to worry more about Elisabeth Warren B Calm Sep 2013 #46

The article mentions Warren + millennials. polichick Sep 2013 #49

Why -- she's NOT running... brooklynite Sep 2013 #99

NO, Thats all wrong. bvar22 Sep 2013 #51

Know what ya mean - I haven't changed either... polichick Sep 2013 #54

Me too! bvar22 Sep 2013 #57

That is also where I come from. olegramps Sep 2013 #68

Pretty much nailed it, olegramps. bvar22 Sep 2013 #101

Aristotle's observations. olegramps Sep 2013 #108

hillary is a rockefeller republican madrchsod Sep 2013 #91

I want to know if HRC will make a firm commitment to ending the war on sick pot smokers. Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #55

If that's the case, then why did two Colorado Senators that supported rational gun laws bluestate10 Sep 2013 #56

You can't equate social issues (and gun control IS a social issue)...... socialist_n_TN Sep 2013 #86

Possibly because gun-control is less popular and more elitist than you think. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #88

"largely a contest between Reaganism and Clintonism." Nailed it! L0oniX Sep 2013 #60

A ray of hope ... (n/t) bread_and_roses Sep 2013 #63

Thanks! snot Sep 2013 #64

"Warren won her Senate race by eight points overall, but by 30 points among the young." polichick Sep 2013 #69

The problem with picking NY politics is....... Historic NY Sep 2013 #67

The economic inequality that is spreading throughout the country Harmony Blue Sep 2013 #72

thanks! VERY interesting article Voice for Peace Sep 2013 #70

Long but worth the read! Thanks for posting. CrispyQ Sep 2013 #73

"Young wolves, show us your teeth." John Steinbeck Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2013 #76

Good quote. Compliment and exhortation all in one. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #89

I love it. That is a wonderful quote. liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #103

Well, on a personal level I love Hillary, but... Deep13 Sep 2013 #77

There is a generational shift coming I welcome the shift. gordianot Sep 2013 #79

Not my experience with Millenials, at all. MORE conformist than previous generations, not less...nt Romulox Sep 2013 #80

Perhaps. But a lot of that has to do with communication... Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #90

Hear Hear! DonCoquixote Sep 2013 #81

Not surprising. OWS should have been an awakening for what is now the old, DLC/Third Way disastrous sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #82

For those of you who were down in the dumps claiming nothing would change.... Left Coast2020 Sep 2013 #92

Hillary's greatest strength is also her biggest weakness. Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #94

Hillary Clinton, Queen of Blue Dogs/"New" DEMS/Third Way/Corporate Centrism/BIPARTISANSHIP!/etc. blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #95

du rec. xchrom Sep 2013 #97

Please don't tell me a new crowd of Dems is threatening her from the RIGHT? kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #107

K&R - This GenXer is getting lefter and lefter and lefter... Jasana Sep 2013 #109

I'll be right there too! polichick Sep 2013 #110

"...pro-capitalist, anti-bureaucratic, Reaganized liberalism." Earth_First Sep 2013 #111

It's the shit we currently have. polichick Sep 2013 #112

Exactly. Earth_First Sep 2013 #113

Isn't there a 'new brand of Democrat' every presidential election cycle that means trouble? wyldwolf Sep 2013 #114

The far left is also rising again to a level not seen since the 1960s. b.durruti Sep 2013 #115

OOH! Have you checked out our Socialist Progressives group?..... socialist_n_TN Sep 2013 #116

Thanks, subscribed! ~nt~ b.durruti Sep 2013 #117

Lets remind ourselves that its the voters that are behind this shift. LiberalLovinLug Sep 2013 #118

"As far as the big money went and the MIC and NSA the message was it was business as usual." polichick Sep 2013 #119

I think it's definitely moving in that direction, but... MineralMan Sep 2013 #120