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joshcryer

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48. Yeah, if the number was 1423, no one would've cared.
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 02:35 AM
Sep 2013

The reality is that they likely got the number from adding up various sources and getting rid of overlap. I added up the best I could from MSF, local non-MSF clinics, and the videos (France watched the videos and counted the bodies; ruling out duplicates), and came up with something around 1300, just by doing the math.

The fact is that so many people died at MSF indicates to me the event was far larger than anyone wants to imagine. Think about it this way, if 100 people wind up going to one hospital after a major incident, do you then assume that that hospital is the only hospital to take them in? No, in the case of large scale deadly events people wind up going to dozens of hospitals. And a lot of them die in the place of the event.

MSF had three hospitals / makeshift clinics total. An average of 100 died at each. Now imagine a large magnitude event. You're going to go where ever you can. Imagine each and every clinic getting 100. That's only 14 clinics to get this number. That's not counting those who weren't breathing and couldn't get to a clinic and had their Muslim burial rights done (24 hours).

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I didn't need anyone's help to recognise anothger Curveball-like BS. idwiyo Sep 2013 #1
true -- but some DUers kept pimping those xchrom Sep 2013 #2
They are STILL PIMPING that despicable bullshit like it's a gospel truth. idwiyo Sep 2013 #4
Yeah, disgusting propaganda. NealK Sep 2013 #13
Yep. Totally agree with you. /nt dballance Sep 2013 #19
Well, you definitely said it better than I could. Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2013 #30
Yes, the WH was serving a steaming pile of BS from the beginning. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #34
The steaming pile warrant46 Sep 2013 #51
I suppose "overestimated" is one word for what they did. LuvNewcastle Sep 2013 #3
Yes. "Lie" being the other, more honest word. Myrina Sep 2013 #16
I prefer "mis-statement" marshall Sep 2013 #39
I could give a fig if there were 10,000 deaths or Skidmore Sep 2013 #5
One death by poison gas is too many. Half-Century Man Sep 2013 #8
But 100,000 by conventional weapons is not an issue. morningfog Sep 2013 #9
They are definitely an issue in Syria. pampango Sep 2013 #10
but not in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia, Pakistan, etc. Warren Stupidity Sep 2013 #20
My guess is that there were signs like this in all those countries and many others - wherever pampango Sep 2013 #25
agreed. That is silly treestar Sep 2013 #14
The push to eliminate landmines is ongoing and we, the US, is one of just 36 Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #22
Not spinning. Skidmore Sep 2013 #29
Holy crap, some might have been killed by the explosions Progressive dog Sep 2013 #6
Gas + conventional bombs to hide gas = gas attack. Barack_America Sep 2013 #31
Do you support a military attack against the rebels when they use Sarin? former9thward Sep 2013 #40
Duh! malaise Sep 2013 #7
Misunderstimating is a characteristic of warmongering. rug Sep 2013 #11
Did anyone posting here read the actual article? JoePhilly Sep 2013 #12
Yeah. NealK Sep 2013 #15
How about this part ... JoePhilly Sep 2013 #18
How come Obama did not say anything you bolded in his address? former9thward Sep 2013 #41
Yeah, if the number was 1423, no one would've cared. joshcryer Sep 2013 #48
2 Groups In Syrian Give Figures Of Damascus Casualties As 1000+ KittyWampus Sep 2013 #26
From Curvebelle? HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #36
No, from two groups IN THE AREA. One of which is in the hospital. KittyWampus Sep 2013 #44
The cannibals or the beheaders? HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #45
355 died in MSF hospitals. Barack_America Sep 2013 #32
Statistically improbable that 70% of the dead wound up in MSF. joshcryer Sep 2013 #47
Probably just ignoring the fact ProSense Sep 2013 #17
Half wag their finger because they imagine death by conventional means is being ignored Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #24
everyday we wait to get that crap out of syrias control brings us closer to war profiteers wetdream Sunlei Sep 2013 #21
THIS is what suck about gathering information before bombing... Romulox Sep 2013 #23
Accurate numbers are hard to come by in a war zone Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2013 #27
The rebels have murdered by Sarin. former9thward Sep 2013 #42
Imagine that. gopiscrap Sep 2013 #28
Oh yea, where is your proof, you don't have, just a post to support a position you would like in Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #33
Read the full report in this month's issue of DUH! magazine, on newsstands now. KamaAina Sep 2013 #35
Absolutely. NealK Sep 2013 #43
isn't one death, one death too many? warrior1 Sep 2013 #37
You mean from torture at gizmo, or in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan or Yemen? grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #38
How many will our missles drones and bombs kill? HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #46
The UN is stating 1400 deaths.... msanthrope Sep 2013 #49
Whether they did or not, it's still a bad thing eridani Sep 2013 #50
Dusty Springfield might have said that a lot of folks were "wishin' and hopin'" this event... Smarmie Doofus Sep 2013 #52
I'll wait for the UN report. Also the Reuter's article is better Motown_Johnny Sep 2013 #53
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