President Obama has won

[go west young man]

51. We saw the same "Obama is a genius chess player" posts

every time he sat down with the non negotiating Republicans. People all over this board said he's bringing them to do his bidding in a round about way. Yet here we are in 2013 and the Repubes have blocked everything he wanted passed. Meanwhile we true liberals said he needs to fight them tougher politically. Granted he's made some progress in the areas of equal rights and figuring out ways to get money to the lower echelons, but as a whole he lost tons of ground that could have been gained.

This side step into Syria has long been planned by the establishment. Wesley Clark has pointed it out to us all.

We've been arming and providing information to rebels for a year so obviously the coming fight was planned for. The real lucky genius of Obama is that the fight has been taken away from the neocons who wanted it. Not because Obama meant to do so but because that's just the way it panned out. The enemy he managed to defeat indirectly is the enemy amongst us, the neocon chicken hawks that run the MIC, AEI, The Carlyle Group and such. They wanted their 2nd big war and it didn't arrive. I think they also wanted Obama bogged down with a war so he couldn't get any further political agenda off the ground and ended up with a divided base so they have a shot in 2014 and 16. However, the game is not over and those pesky rats are still running all through the woodwork so I wouldn't give Obama a pat on the back just yet. There is way too much distorted information out there.

Simplistically one could say Obama has won politically at home. Globally is another story. The BBC has called it a win for Putin. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24033622 Check the first snippet from the NY Times.

As someone else said, Obama and Putin may take the credit politically in their respective areas of the world, yet the real victims are the Syrian people.

These Obama cheer leading threads and posts that are plentiful here lately don't do much for getting Obama more kudo's from the true liberals amongst us. His overall agenda has been mainly centrist. He allows more for conservatives than he takes for us liberals. He could do with a much bigger leftward tilt. With the 3 years years left in his presidency maybe he can surprise us. Change takes time but the changes America needs are massive and the rest of the civilized planet is pulling away in all areas.