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stevenleser

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31. One case does not indicate a pattern of discrimination, but it's troubling.

Sat Sep 14, 2013, 05:44 PM

Sep 2013

No one who is accused of first or second degree murder should be out on bail without a six plus digit bail and various other assurances. And even then, if there is additional history of violence beyond the one occurrence they should be held without any offer of bail.

It's hard to imagine a man being let out basically ROR (Released on Own Recognizance) on murder in any situation.

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Wife who pushed husband off cliff is released pending trial, without bond! [View all] davidn3600 Sep 2013 OP

If the man in question is not deemed a flight risk nor risk to others, he would. hlthe2b Sep 2013 #1

lmao TeamPooka Sep 2013 #2

What chance does a man have of being given that designation? davidn3600 Sep 2013 #4

Oh Bullshit... I do know that courts continue to make it difficullt to gain/enforce hlthe2b Sep 2013 #6

You know...I think you are correct on that point. Safetykitten Sep 2013 #17

LMAO - the man was the victim - A WOMAN COMMITTED THE CRIME FreakinDJ Sep 2013 #8

Bullshit.... absolute bullshit. Men in similar situation set bail routinely and YOU know it hlthe2b Sep 2013 #9

"Thou doest protest too much" - even you know the extreme gender bias FreakinDJ Sep 2013 #11

what an idiotic reply... hlthe2b Sep 2013 #14

Oh, and if only BainsBane Sep 2013 #40

She had to post no bail at all. LisaL Sep 2013 #13

I don't agree with it, but to say she got it because she was female (as some are)? Give me a break. hlthe2b Sep 2013 #15

Bullshit. Studies prove there is gender bias in favor of women in the federal system davidn3600 Sep 2013 #16

In domestic violence cases, the opposite is true at every level and you know that. hlthe2b Sep 2013 #19

Really? No bail for any murder charge? So much for innocent until proven guilty. n-t Logical Sep 2013 #23

I meant none should get bail on their own recognizance, rather than cash bond... hlthe2b Sep 2013 #25

Well, that means poor people stay in jail and rich people don't. n-t Logical Sep 2013 #26

I believe in a sliding scale for that, as well... hlthe2b Sep 2013 #27

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The sentencing should be very interesting.... davidn3600 Sep 2013 #35

I don't know... If she is found guilty and not punished, I'd agree with you, but as to a decision on hlthe2b Sep 2013 #38

You're right. And she is not a "risk to others" in that she is unlikely to remarry at the present. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #24

Outrageous. Reversed the genders, and the man would get no bail 99.99% of the time. TransitJohn Sep 2013 #3

Have pity...she's a widow! brooklynite Sep 2013 #5

That she is. LisaL Sep 2013 #10

I seriously doubt a guy would have been let out like that. HappyMe Sep 2013 #7

She stood her ground, he was the flight risk. TheCowsCameHome Sep 2013 #12

Flight Risk? The guy was pushed off a cliff! demwing Sep 2013 #18

Ummmmm..... Probably. nt Buns_of_Fire Sep 2013 #20

I thought it Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #43

Famous case: Michael Peterson convicted of murdering his wife during domestic dispute alcibiades_mystery Sep 2013 #21

He was released on NO BOND? n-t Logical Sep 2013 #22

He was on $300,000 bond. This woman was released without any bond at all!! davidn3600 Sep 2013 #30

Indeed mzmolly Sep 2013 #42

A local man was accused of 2 counts of assault with a deadly weapon WolverineDG Sep 2013 #28

Nope, I violated the US Bankruptcy law gopiscrap Sep 2013 #29

One case does not indicate a pattern of discrimination, but it's troubling. stevenleser Sep 2013 #31

Only someone who is found an actual flight risk or with a specific violent risk should morningfog Sep 2013 #45

NO one pushed anyone off of me. Well, there was that one time with MFM cliffordu Sep 2013 #32

She should at least have had a "don't remarry" condition applied. nt JBoy Sep 2013 #33

Like maybe a warning tattoo on her forehead? undeterred Sep 2013 #34

allegedly.. Niceguy1 Sep 2013 #36

Well, one thing has been proven here ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #39

Astounding. mzmolly Sep 2013 #41

A man probably would get the exact same treatment. morningfog Sep 2013 #44

To be honest I just have no idea about the bail, but I would like to know why she did it. hrmjustin Sep 2013 #46