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38. He "lobbied" hard for it . . .

Sun Sep 15, 2013, 12:03 AM

Sep 2013

. . . "apparently". Please look deeper. The lobbying by he, Kerry and Rice were diplomatic feints that fooled a lot of people, including many here on DU and in the press.

He didn't have to lobby at all. He could have just gone ahead and did the strikes under the War Powers act like Bush/Cheney did so often. He instead flipped the script and sent it to Congress because he knew it wouldn't pass.

He therefore bought time, resumed his talks on Syrian surrender of the chem weapons at the G20 with Putin (it came out that they had spoken of the surrender a year ago at the 2012 G20 also), then dispatched Secretary Kerry to make his "gaffe" mention of possible Syrian weapons surrender, which Putin quickly agreed to.

That was no gaffe and this all was no accident. Obama, Kerry and Putin are not stupid men. IMO they were all in on the gaffe/olive branch. Putin bought Assad along, who I think was very willing to get out of a sticky situation — plus he most likely remembered what happened to Bin Ladin. Assad is not a stupid man either. He knows O has a rep. Just ask Bin Ladin or the Somali pirates.

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Told you the President wasn't going to war in Syria, but NOOOOO, nobody listens to me [View all] snooper2 Sep 2013 OP

Congratulations, but it ain't over 'til it's over. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2013 #1

He lobbied hard for it. mick063 Sep 2013 #2

The president gave a threat and the, threat won snooper2 Sep 2013 #3

Spin mick063 Sep 2013 #4

It's amazing isn't it Andy823 Sep 2013 #20

Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #21

A failed Presidency snooper2 Sep 2013 #23

"A failed Presidency"....Please read the TOS before voting , they are very specific.... pkdu Sep 2013 #44

He "lobbied" hard for it . . . brush Sep 2013 #38

It did knock the NSA off the front page. Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #5

Something was bound to come up knocking NSA off the screen Lifelong Dem Sep 2013 #40

Way too early yet to be counting eggs. KittyWampus Sep 2013 #6

Alright then, you have won yourself Hutzpa Sep 2013 #7

Kudos Benton D Struckcheon Sep 2013 #8

You don't understand... SidDithers Sep 2013 #9

In this case, DU seemed to reflect public opinion. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2013 #10

and.. it was all a distraction to make people forget about snowaldo-rama! dionysus Sep 2013 #11

LOL treestar Sep 2013 #13

True. ocpagu Sep 2013 #19

They'd like to think so Sid... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #39

Your contempt for the President is noted cthulu2016 Sep 2013 #12

Our President is badass.. snooper2 Sep 2013 #27

So you'd cheer for war, too, then-- were it to happen. Marr Sep 2013 #30

Knocking out some missile silos isn't a big deal snooper2 Sep 2013 #31

snooper2 says striking Syria is "not a big deal". Marr Sep 2013 #32

65,000 troops on the ground snooper2 Sep 2013 #35

Where did 65,000 troops on the ground come into it? Marr Sep 2013 #36

snooper2 said "missile silos" -- there's a difference. nt Hekate Sep 2013 #46

I said from day one he was not looking to invade Syria. Rex Sep 2013 #14

Thanks to the British Parliament. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2013 #15

Lol Sand Wind Sep 2013 #16

they cannot simply.... will not...give this President any credit..it is ALWAYS somebody else... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #41

I'm starting to see a pattern here, Jamaal510 Sep 2013 #17

is it possible that the public "loosing their minds" is a big part of the reason why things like Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #18

The pattern is the loud knee-jerk section of DU davidpdx Sep 2013 #37

or giving all the credit to someone...anyone....else... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #42

Yeah, he planned it, right? FreeJoe Sep 2013 #22

He always had options. joshcryer Sep 2013 #25

... Marr Sep 2013 #33

It was NOT a gaffe....they have been working on this for a long long time... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #43

Didn't tridim also make a betting prediction? joshcryer Sep 2013 #24

Sure didn't look that way for awhile and the threat of war is not over gopiscrap Sep 2013 #26

What do you think initially stopped him? Trusting fans? Marr Sep 2013 #28

Massive public opposition here and abroad had nothing whatsoever to do with it eridani Sep 2013 #29

Excuse us for overestimating the power of the MIC. Incitatus Sep 2013 #34

who are the three leaders of the MIC? snooper2 Sep 2013 #45

3? Incitatus Sep 2013 #48

ROFL, where did all the anti-Obama he is a part of the MIC "Same as Bush" tools go? snooper2 Sep 2013 #47