Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
42. Same shit, different decade...
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 10:59 AM
Sep 2013

When I was in first grade, there was a missile base just down the road. Twelve Hiroshima's worth of nuclear tipped anti-aircraft missiles less than a mile from my elementary school. The Bomarc missiles had a range of about 250 miles, there was a string of bases along the Canadian border. Mine was just outside Duluth, Minnesota. You can still see the base (long decommissioned) here: http://goo.gl/maps/KvWJV The 28 missile sheds are visible in the lower right. My school is in the upper left.

Had they ever been used, I'm guessing that International Falls would no longer be known as "Icebox of the Nation" as it wouldn't exist. The war industry had us convinced that we had to be prepared to use nuclear devices over our own land to prevent the possible use of other nuclear devices in places not of our choosing.


I can't begin to imagine the total cost we have spent and are continuing to spend on Cold War defense. I have to imagine much of the war hawk rhetoric is funded by the companies that benefit from these expenditures. The insanity of being prepared to use nukes over our own people (ironic echos there..) is being replaced by preparing to defend against the country that we are partnering with rid another country of chemical weapons. I guess it's not supposed to make sense, just dollars.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

and people think... Takket Sep 2013 #1
Pretty obvious, isn't, to anyone with more than half a brain. pangaia Sep 2013 #22
Are you saying that the US does not need any missiles anymore? (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #2
I'm saying we don't need more missiles. cali Sep 2013 #3
The US doesn't need sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #7
Well, that's not entirely true Stargazer09 Sep 2013 #31
We already possess sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #38
Other countries are building their arsenals to defend against us,US. RC Sep 2013 #44
"Other countries are building their arsenals to defend against us,US." NCTraveler Sep 2013 #63
You do not get out much, do you? RC Sep 2013 #65
Get out often thank you. NCTraveler Sep 2013 #66
It depends on whether they have something we want. RC Sep 2013 #67
I am aware of all of that. NCTraveler Sep 2013 #68
No change from the original claim. It all fits together. RC Sep 2013 #69
I believe we have enough missiles already. dballance Sep 2013 #26
Missile bases aren't anything new in VT. On my way to St Albans... Cooley Hurd Sep 2013 #4
Unfortunately, Sen. Leahy is a big supporter of buying and basing F-35s in Burlington. n/t unhappycamper Sep 2013 #5
Nobody's going to shoot at us with an ICBM. rrneck Sep 2013 #6
I wouldn't be so certain Stargazer09 Sep 2013 #32
MAD worked in the twentieth century, it will work now. rrneck Sep 2013 #37
I don't think MAD comes into play wercal Sep 2013 #52
The logic is the same. rrneck Sep 2013 #54
I just don't see us nuking North Korea wercal Sep 2013 #55
When they knocked down the WTC the jingoism was palpaple rrneck Sep 2013 #56
I have no doubt a North Korean attack would lead us to bombing them wercal Sep 2013 #57
North Korea is not an extential threat, rrneck Sep 2013 #58
Well we disagree wercal Sep 2013 #59
It's okay to disagree. rrneck Sep 2013 #62
But the filthy rich must get filthier. It's the most important thing in the world. nt valerief Sep 2013 #8
Where should they be? treestar Sep 2013 #9
In a grave unhappycamper Sep 2013 #12
I can't speak for cali... ljm2002 Sep 2013 #13
Do you really think we can do without missile defense? treestar Sep 2013 #45
Your question was a non sequitur... ljm2002 Sep 2013 #46
Well then if the issue is where, why not Vermont? treestar Sep 2013 #47
Are you really that dense? ljm2002 Sep 2013 #48
Pick which it is treestar Sep 2013 #49
Up Raytheon's ass? L0oniX Sep 2013 #21
they shouldn't be anywhere. cali Sep 2013 #60
that's absurd. We have to have missile defense treestar Sep 2013 #61
military mtasselin Sep 2013 #10
Well, given the type of missiles you mentioned, MineralMan Sep 2013 #11
Put the Interceptors next to the Alberta Tar Sands. n/t formercia Sep 2013 #15
Well, that's in Canada, not the USA. MineralMan Sep 2013 #16
Sure it will. Why not? :>) pangaia Sep 2013 #27
Agreed Stargazer09 Sep 2013 #33
Well, I think the ICBM threat is steadily diminishing, MineralMan Sep 2013 #35
I live in Maine and wonder why our State wasn't chosen. formercia Sep 2013 #14
True. Maine would be even more appropriate. MineralMan Sep 2013 #18
I agree. Maine is much more of a threat ....to Canada. L0oniX Sep 2013 #20
There is some question about whether Canada actually exists. MineralMan Sep 2013 #23
Canada does in fact exist. pangaia Sep 2013 #39
Maine is being considered. Clown is Down Sep 2013 #24
Ah, OK. I guess this is still in the early planning stages. MineralMan Sep 2013 #25
according to the story... Clown is Down Sep 2013 #34
Thanks. I'll go have a look. MineralMan Sep 2013 #36
Because of the maple syrup, I expect. pangaia Sep 2013 #28
Here in Minnesota, the maple syrup industry would MineralMan Sep 2013 #30
Sorry you had such a bad year. pangaia Sep 2013 #40
It has to be built . . . another_liberal Sep 2013 #17
I agree, 100%. pangaia Sep 2013 #29
Breaking: Canada threatens to counter US agression with nuke missile base in Nova Scotia. L0oniX Sep 2013 #19
The attraction is people see this and think JOBS! Clown is Down Sep 2013 #41
Same shit, different decade... Thor_MN Sep 2013 #42
There's an old Nike missile base down the road from me NickB79 Sep 2013 #43
Why Vermont? TomClash Sep 2013 #50
No kidding gopiscrap Sep 2013 #51
Military Base Old Troop Sep 2013 #53
I don't know..."Exoatmospheric Kill Vehicle" is pretty badazz. Good name for a band! didact Sep 2013 #64
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Fucking Ridiculous ANYWHE...»Reply #42