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In reply to the discussion: President Obama has won [View all]brush
(61,033 posts)172. Do you really want to know when I voted for a Democrat?
Last edited Sun Sep 15, 2013, 03:32 PM - Edit history (1)
I didn't vote for Jimmy Carter try Gus Hall. Know who that is?
Your post reminds me of some words from a Billie Holiday song "Crazy he Calls Me."
Here's a link:
It goes something like this: "The difficult I'll do right now, the impossible will take a little while."
I remember early in his first term when many progressives turned against him, basically out of impatience because he hadn't gotten around to fixing "their issue" yet. Even the repugs feigned impatience also because after a few months he hadn't fixed everything Bush/Cheney screwed up, even as they attempted to block every move he made (yet he still got an amazing amount of things done, including the ACA which had eluded every president since Teddy Roosevelt).
That impatience caused us the 2010 election and the House as many of those so-called progressives deserted him and the party as they stayed home on election day because they were pissed.
He's not up for re-election again but 2014 is coming and deja vue seems to be repeating itself. I don't recall a sitting dem president ever getting so much harsh criticism from those in his own party much of it seems to be unvarnished hatred even, I'll even go there by mentioning the "R" word. This stuff is unprecedented.
As far as President Obama, of course I voted for him twice. One thing that O supporters who seem to have turned against him forget is that being a senator or rep, and being PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF OF EMPIRE and all that that entails, bring vastly different forces to grapple with.
As a senator or rep one has the luxury to sit back and be in opposition, or support for that matter of US policies without being the one who has to make the tough decisions and take the kudos or consequences of success or failure. The pres has to deal with hawkish generals, their equally hawkish corporate arms manufacturers who want the humongous profits wars bring, their paid-for congresspersons and senators, and all the war-drumming punditry, not to mention blue dogs and progressives from his own party with little patience.
No one who takes the job of President thinks they have free reign to immediately to make changes to our decades (over a century really) of empire, and fomenting of coups and wars and occupations and assassinations, et al. This president with his flipping of the script on the Syria crisis by throwing it congress has shown a willingness, imo, of pulling back on the unitary executive mandate that Bush/Cheney reveled in. To me he's shown he doesn't want the "boots on the ground" macho exercises of US power that went before him. With this Syria thing he's shown how to use US power without firing a shot.
You think Afghanistan is an easy problem to solve? No country has went into there without coming out badly weakened the Soviet Union/Russia included. Of course drones are reprehensible but I feel he's trying to extricate us from that mess with the weapons at his disposal.
As far as Africa, sure I want him to adjust our policies, to bring our whole country to an awareness that there is a huge continent across the Atlantic that attention must be paid to, that our persistence derogation of a continent because of the color of its inhabitants skin is a huge missed opportunity for trade that the Chinese are exploiting.
He has to have time. He's been in office 4-plus years. The impossible turning around acentury of empire and fomenting of coups and wars and occupations and assassinations, et al will take a little while. Way more than 4-plus years.
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My retirement has done extraordinarily well since President Obama took office. So have the
bluestate10
Sep 2013
#70
I'm happy for you and those others whose retirement funds are doing well. However
totodeinhere
Sep 2013
#159
Of course this has been said before. But we need to continue to say it until something
totodeinhere
Sep 2013
#178
Per your view. I think the President and SOS Kerry brilliantly cornered the Russians
bluestate10
Sep 2013
#71
But it was messy, plus he didn't take the all rich people's money away in the process
BeyondGeography
Sep 2013
#5
they always are. The is the problem with power struggles. It is the people who just want to
liberal_at_heart
Sep 2013
#15
The lesson learned is to unite the youth vote behind a single party and candidate.
Spitfire of ATJ
Sep 2013
#182
What has he won? Well for one making you and a number of other look rather foolish
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2013
#92
Well Obama did lead the world in getting this ban on Assad's chemical weapons like the leader he is
Lifelong Dem
Sep 2013
#110
Our long stated goal in Syria is to depose Assad. Entering in to an international agreement...
cigsandcoffee
Sep 2013
#10
Wrong. With chemical weapons out of the equation toppling Assad becomes easier.
joshcryer
Sep 2013
#132
The right wing authoritarian idol worshipering democrats think that it should be...
Larry Ogg
Sep 2013
#65
Not when Conservatives are currently writing a history of his failures,...to get them to cooperate.
Spitfire of ATJ
Sep 2013
#46
...is a myopic statement. This is much bigger than scoring political talking points.
Comrade Grumpy
Sep 2013
#25
You want to agree that the President and John Kerry are Mentally Disabled like Forrest Gump?
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2013
#97
The bigger winner are the 98% of the world who want the CWC followed. And in a small way, Syrians.
freshwest
Sep 2013
#34
shhhhh don't bring that up...they are too busy soft insulting Obama by calling him Forrest Gump!
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2013
#98
Okay for media pundits to degrade the learning disabled? Another epic empathy fail.
freshwest
Sep 2013
#115
He just "sucks" until he has handled your problem as you see successfully I suppose
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2013
#114
No need to put words in my mouth, VanillaRhapsody. That's a propaganda technique.
Octafish
Sep 2013
#118
I am sorry if Barack the Magic President hasn't waved his magic wand and wished them all away for
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2013
#139
You are very kind to respond with such consideration to anyone that uses Black Agenda Report
Number23
Sep 2013
#186
I'm right there with you. The naysayers are pounding the OP and questioning
bluestate10
Sep 2013
#73
No, President Obama has not won. The international community has won assuming that this agreement
totodeinhere
Sep 2013
#56
Wouldn't want to give the man any credit...that would be just terrible...
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2013
#102
But I didn't say don't give the man any credit. I said don't give him all the credit.
totodeinhere
Sep 2013
#116
funny how someone was here giving some credit...and you came along to make sure it wasn't "too much"
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2013
#140
Saying that more than one person deserves some of the credit for this is not bashing anyone.
totodeinhere
Sep 2013
#143
NO I would say insisting that others recognize who you believe deserves credit...
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2013
#180
Attn DU: A serial alerter has been removed from the game for 24 hours, adjust your plans accordingly
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2013
#75
You have pissed off the purists of DU. To them, President Obama is a disappointment
bluestate10
Sep 2013
#68
And now watch as all the republicans vote for the authorization of bombing strikes
thelordofhell
Sep 2013
#86
Just remembered he won by listening to progressives, and I'll give him a win, thus far.
grahamhgreen
Sep 2013
#109
not over untill it's over. Nerve wracking time now where *anything* could happen.
Sunlei
Sep 2013
#156