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leveymg

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21. Current US policy reflects both a broad strategic plan (regime change) and part tactical practical

Sun Sep 15, 2013, 03:50 PM

Sep 2013

measures that have actually been imposed: reinforcement of long-term diplomatic and economic isolation; sustained punative measures intended to deprive the Iranian state of foreign exchange earnings from oil export revenues and access to advanced technology, resulting in lower living standards and rising popular discontent, but without much immediate dramatic sabotage (we some some efforts to disrupt staple food pricing on a demonstration basis about 18 months ago), except of Iran's nuclear and strategic missile programs.

If you think that is inaccurate, let me know.

There are, of course, a cross-currents of thinking that inform that strategy, and you can Google "Iran regime change" and the major strands become immediately apparent.

Now, tell me how the Clean Break document is not reflective of actual US and Israeli policy toward other states in the region.

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Obama says Syria deal could offer lesson for Iran talks [View all] ProSense Sep 2013 OP

No shit. Like that lesson is lost on anyone. Just like Iraq and Libya - leveymg Sep 2013 #1

There is ProSense Sep 2013 #2

Regime change has been the goal alsame Sep 2013 #4

The Iranian President has been in office "since 1953"? ProSense Sep 2013 #5

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that alsame Sep 2013 #6

What does that have to do with the claim the current policy is "regime" change? n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #7

Please read the link, and tell me how the current policy differs from the 1996 Clean Break plan. leveymg Sep 2013 #10

No, show me where "regime" change is the current policy. ProSense Sep 2013 #11

The broad outlines of recent history (2003-present) establish that well enough. leveymg Sep 2013 #12

You can't show it, can you? n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #13

OK. Here's a link that touches on it. But, you still should read the 1996 Clean Break document. leveymg Sep 2013 #14

Sorry - gave you the wrong link. Here it is: leveymg Sep 2013 #15

Got anything that shows the current policy is "regime" change? n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #16

The current policy is to bleed Syria, disarm it, and then break it up. leveymg Sep 2013 #17

Still can't produce evidence that the current policy is "regme" change in Iran, huh? n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #18

Did you read the Clean Break plan? That's what it says. Please comment on that. leveymg Sep 2013 #19

This is obfuscation. ProSense Sep 2013 #20

Current US policy reflects both a broad strategic plan (regime change) and part tactical practical leveymg Sep 2013 #21

Still no evidence, huh? n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #22

What might constitute evidence to you? leveymg Sep 2013 #23

An official document from the Obama administration. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #24

I am not Edward Snowden or J Assange. Please put in your order through the proper channels: leveymg Sep 2013 #26

LOL! Why didn't you just admit that you were stating an opinion, not a fact? n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #27

The long-term strategy of regime change against Iran is a fact. The particulars are more fluid and leveymg Sep 2013 #28

The claim that current policy is "regime" change is not a fact, and ProSense Sep 2013 #30

BTW, here are two WH statements ProSense Sep 2013 #25

Addressed immediately above. leveymg Sep 2013 #29

"They shouldn't draw a lesson that we haven't struck, to think we won't strike Iran." rug Sep 2013 #3

Oh, joy! More saber rattling from Obama. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2013 #8

The question is ProSense Sep 2013 #9