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161. And sometimes a cigar is a just a cigar

Sun Sep 15, 2013, 07:51 PM

Sep 2013

That is, a person who I think is a pedophile, or a rape apologist, or a misogynist often really is what I think they are. There's a reason the notion comes into my head, after all, and it's not because I wish I could rape little girls and want to clue that so someone else.

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Think about this when you see someone here calling another a pedophile or rapist apologist or [View all] upaloopa Sep 2013 OP

he asked at what age he could be sexually attracted to a girl before being called a creep or seabeyond Sep 2013 #1

I've seen people called creeps for being say, 55 and dating a 25 year old. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #6

This might help pintobean Sep 2013 #13

What is this, some Jedi mind trick? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #16

Try again pintobean Sep 2013 #17

No, first go back and tell seabeyond to edit her post ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #20

Maybe you should read the OP pintobean Sep 2013 #22

She is still talking about a post that was deleted two days ago, not the OP of this thread ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #24

Yes, it was. pintobean Sep 2013 #30

The OP is, get with the program. She responded to it here. boston bean Sep 2013 #34

And she brought in the word creep, not used in this OP but the other one ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #37

was pedophile used? boston bean Sep 2013 #40

She's saying it was apparently, as well as the word creep ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #45

You can't recall? boston bean Sep 2013 #49

Did you read #24? You should know what I said ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #52

I know I'm such a "b*tch" being concerned about one who thinks or one who supports boston bean Sep 2013 #54

Do you want to start calling out who you think supports it? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #55

If he was married and divorced his wife of 25-30 years for a younger woman, I think its shitty. boston bean Sep 2013 #58

I see nothing in TMG thread that shows support ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #61

Yeah, totally. I know when I read the word "pedophile" I *ALWAYS* think of 20 year olds. redqueen Sep 2013 #94

and you're more outraged by the use of the word creep BainsBane Sep 2013 #176

the question "what is too young" isn't creepily speculative as it is? bettyellen Sep 2013 #81

I'll remind you BainsBane Sep 2013 #88

At best, he asked an ambiguous question and phrased it in the most awkward possible way... nomorenomore08 Sep 2013 #110

He wasn't ambiguous at all. redqueen Sep 2013 #113

I can't know exactly what was in his head at the time. What I do know is I was more and more creeped nomorenomore08 Sep 2013 #117

This looks like a good place in the thread for a musical interlude snooper2 Sep 2013 #201

"Half your age plus 7 years" is a good rule of thumb, I think. nomorenomore08 Sep 2013 #98

If people are over 18, I don't give a flying fuck BainsBane Sep 2013 #106

"creepy" is a subjective opinion Quantess Sep 2013 #14

It is? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #18

In your opinion it isn't and in my opinion, it might be. Quantess Sep 2013 #21

I don't care for the gossip in the small town certain circles ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #26

When I was 25 I was seriously creeped out by older men hitting on me. Mojorabbit Sep 2013 #41

My scenario wasn't about unwanted advances from some old slob ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #51

you cannot make others not find things creepy Skittles Sep 2013 #157

Everyone seems to want to go back to the sexual fetishes in this thread ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #160

You asked a question that will not be answered here. SamReynolds Sep 2013 #188

As an opinion, is it not possible to discuss it? lumberjack_jeff Sep 2013 #33

This the best you got? boston bean Sep 2013 #47

It isn't just "the best", it is good. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2013 #56

Well, at least he didn't reply "if the post is alerted, I'm confident it will stay" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #57

"The result was entirely predictable"... opiate69 Sep 2013 #59

Good lord BainsBane Sep 2013 #101

Not quite no one was supporting someone who was boston bean Sep 2013 #60

The question was clearly and obviously asked in a non-literal way. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2013 #63

Oh Lumberjack, doth prtest to much, do you not see your boston bean Sep 2013 #67

Wasn't that link to HOF LittleBlue Sep 2013 #68

duh, did you read what just I wrote? boston bean Sep 2013 #69

I read it LittleBlue Sep 2013 #73

Shall I quit now father/boss/man? boston bean Sep 2013 #75

This has nothing to do with me being a boss man LittleBlue Sep 2013 #84

I didn't see it a jest. I saw it as making an exasperated point boston bean Sep 2013 #91

I hope you are aware that in India LittleBlue Sep 2013 #97

Very sad and disgusting incident. How many boys are being castrated in India, do you know? boston bean Sep 2013 #105

I would have to know what he's asking LittleBlue Sep 2013 #129

You can make whatever assumptions about me that you would like. boston bean Sep 2013 #132

Your family really has litte to do with this LittleBlue Sep 2013 #139

My friends would realizeI wasn't defending castrating or for castrating boys. boston bean Sep 2013 #141

Oh dear lord, that is SICK! SamReynolds Sep 2013 #189

You participated in that thread BainsBane Sep 2013 #193

Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #237

Do you actually read? BainsBane Sep 2013 #190

I read the entire thing LittleBlue Sep 2013 #204

I am arguing that? BainsBane Sep 2013 #207

Your quote LittleBlue Sep 2013 #210

Read your own link BainsBane Sep 2013 #211

You did LittleBlue Sep 2013 #214

Well, she did say in that post she didn't mean it BainsBane Sep 2013 #224

Wow, you're thick. SamReynolds Sep 2013 #238

Oh, I don't know about all that.... opiate69 Sep 2013 #70

So as long as the little ladies keep their mouths shut all is well... boston bean Sep 2013 #71

I see you haven't divested yourself of straw futures... opiate69 Sep 2013 #74

I'm not vested in straw, never have been. boston bean Sep 2013 #76

Ah.. Well, given your perpetual use of strawmen, I just assumed.. As for the other claim, opiate69 Sep 2013 #78

Classy..... boston bean Sep 2013 #92

Ah, yes.. because you and yours have ever always been the fucking picture of decorum and civility.. opiate69 Sep 2013 #95

I'm not usually civil when confronting sexist assholes. Is that the instance you speak of/reference? boston bean Sep 2013 #96

You're often uncivil when you confront your fellow DU'ers too. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2013 #102

Wow, nice to know how you feel. boston bean Sep 2013 #108

I get mail. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2013 #112

Now I'm a dehumanizer. Always considered myself to be a pretty boston bean Sep 2013 #123

You're rambling. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2013 #77

Ok, take your own advice. ie People responding to a posters own words boston bean Sep 2013 #86

No, that is not what he said BainsBane Sep 2013 #103

At my age, I would consider it inappropriate to act on an attraction to a 24 year old. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2013 #111

I consider his explanation a cover up BainsBane Sep 2013 #114

Oh, boy.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #116

Where is it going? BainsBane Sep 2013 #119

Go ahead and time me, if you wish ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #126

Do you actually have anything to say to me? BainsBane Sep 2013 #127

Why bother reading what people say before calling them pedophiles? lumberjack_jeff Sep 2013 #120

Where did I call him a pedophile? BainsBane Sep 2013 #122

It made it clear to you ... polly7 Sep 2013 #118

Yes, he used the word pedophile. DLevine Sep 2013 #128

Ah well ....... I'm still not as quick to accuse someone of being a pedophile polly7 Sep 2013 #131

I agree that doesn't make him a pedophile. DLevine Sep 2013 #137

See, I wouldn't have automatically assumed he was talking about underage girls at all. polly7 Sep 2013 #142

how young can a girls be to find her SEXUALLY attractive before considered a creep or pedophile. seabeyond Sep 2013 #144

What? polly7 Sep 2013 #145

Well, as long as it wasn't a woman who said it BainsBane Sep 2013 #194

Do you always make things up? polly7 Sep 2013 #196

Okay BainsBane Sep 2013 #199

Ahhh, I've posted many, many articles and links for women's rights and equality. polly7 Sep 2013 #200

So you can't provide any? BainsBane Sep 2013 #203

Nah .... I say what 'I' think, and really don't care what you polly7 Sep 2013 #208

Actually, my entire experience with you has been from your "us vs. them" BainsBane Sep 2013 #212

OFFS. polly7 Sep 2013 #215

That's a good question BainsBane Sep 2013 #242

Maybe you could pm me with your self-pitying bullcrap if you're so polly7 Sep 2013 #247

I'm so sorry you got slapped with that label, polly... Violet_Crumble Sep 2013 #239

No one said that to you BainsBane Sep 2013 #240

Yes, they did accuse me of that. Here's the link... Violet_Crumble Sep 2013 #241

The link doesn't support what you claim BainsBane Sep 2013 #243

Uh, how was that not accusing me of supporting sex trafficking?? Violet_Crumble Sep 2013 #244

You said the post was an attack BainsBane Sep 2013 #245

Accusing me of supporting sex trafficking isn't an attack? It is, no matter how it's twisted... Violet_Crumble Sep 2013 #246

There's one thing you need to learn Violet, polly7 Sep 2013 #249

Strange, isn't it. polly7 Sep 2013 #248

"Supporting him through it though." ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #64

What are you doing in this thread? BainsBane Sep 2013 #104

Bullshit ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #121

Really? BainsBane Sep 2013 #125

All I asked her was about creeps (the word she used) and age gap between consenting adults ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #130

You continue to evade the question BainsBane Sep 2013 #133

I already said up thread.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #140

SEXUALLY attractive. how YOUNG can a GIRL be to find her SEXUALLY attractive without seabeyond Sep 2013 #143

the precise language was "how old" BainsBane Sep 2013 #150

The revealing part was that he distinguished between attraction and acting on it BainsBane Sep 2013 #146

yes. instead of merely attractive, he made clear sexually attractive. used pedophile and not acting seabeyond Sep 2013 #148

the question wasn't about age differences- it was how young of a girl is "too young" bettyellen Sep 2013 #87

With the assumption that it would be so young that the poster Squinch Sep 2013 #136

yep, several posters are attempting to rewrite the OP - so they obviously saw it was bettyellen Sep 2013 #191

Me Too, I'm 55 and couldn't imagine dating a 25 yr old, Lusting for one ? orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #83

+1 B Calm Sep 2013 #154

This could be an interesting discussion The Straight Story Sep 2013 #8

and then he deleted and he and several others tried to spin that it was about adults.... bettyellen Sep 2013 #79

Oh boy, an armchair psychology thread. Those are always classy and educated here. (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2013 #2

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar etherealtruth Sep 2013 #3

People ought to be careful throwing around these terms LittleBlue Sep 2013 #4

Insert joke here: Bay Boy Sep 2013 #5

Ah, the old three-fingers-pointing-back-at-you. Iggo Sep 2013 #7

Freud is not worth citing Shivering Jemmy Sep 2013 #9

Good call, if safeinOhio Sep 2013 #28

In another way: people hate most in others what they struggle with in themselves bhikkhu Sep 2013 #10

Urp a Durp Oilwellian Sep 2013 #11

When she couches that objection using phrases like "LOL poor widdle menz!" lumberjack_jeff Sep 2013 #35

In response to men defending misgynistic actions and words boston bean Sep 2013 #44

Ya know, my kids grew out of that whole "he did it first" thing by around 10 or so... opiate69 Sep 2013 #48

Are you reading the OP? boston bean Sep 2013 #50

Right? Squinch Sep 2013 #155

Freud? Seriously? So you believe women want penises and want to fuck their fathers? alphafemale Sep 2013 #12

You do know that Freud was a misogynist right? Rex Sep 2013 #15

I wonder if he ever called anyone a quack. pintobean Sep 2013 #19

Anybody looking toward Freud Aerows Sep 2013 #25

I'll take "Poisoning the well", with a side of "Historian's fallacy", Garcon. opiate69 Sep 2013 #27

You don't need to poison the well with Freud Aerows Sep 2013 #29

While some of his work has been rightly dismissed, opiate69 Sep 2013 #32

Standing on the shoulders of giants Aerows Sep 2013 #43

Who knew that quoting Freud's own words would cause such projection Rex Sep 2013 #181

nanos gigantum humeris insidentes Aerows Sep 2013 #182

Social democracy Rex Sep 2013 #183

This message was self-deleted by its author Aerows Sep 2013 #184

This message was self-deleted by its author Aerows Sep 2013 #185

Or, are you dismissing the concept of "projection", out-of-hand? opiate69 Sep 2013 #42

Absolutely not Aerows Sep 2013 #46

Oh boy Aerows Sep 2013 #23

Someone posted a badly worded op, and every single person who responded talked about ADULTS Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #31

Freud is that you? boston bean Sep 2013 #38

And since I don't know him from Adam pintobean Sep 2013 #39

Fair enough. Like I said, best case scenario it was worded badly. Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #53

Well, both your and her reactions are understandable. pintobean Sep 2013 #62

+1 nomorenomore08 Sep 2013 #147

This has *nothing* to do with 'mind-reading'. redqueen Sep 2013 #149

I agree it was creepy. Like I said, it creeped me out the more I thought about it. nomorenomore08 Sep 2013 #156

kali pretty much hit the pedophile button also. nt seabeyond Sep 2013 #162

Don't you think the hosts should have locked that thread? BainsBane Sep 2013 #109

It was a CS issue, not an SOP issue. pintobean Sep 2013 #134

I think I took you off because of a MIRT issue BainsBane Sep 2013 #138

In retrospect, YES, of course it should've been locked. And I don't feel too good nomorenomore08 Sep 2013 #166

That would make sense BainsBane Sep 2013 #167

Yeah, I'm certainly not confident enough of the guy's benign intentions, to defend him in any way. nomorenomore08 Sep 2013 #168

In retrospect, I should have asked him to rephrase his question. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2013 #186

that was not the question Jeff- it was how young is too young. bettyellen Sep 2013 #192

About half of the respondents answered the question "how old is too old?" lumberjack_jeff Sep 2013 #219

A rather none-too-clever way to petulantly trivialize the concerns of others. LanternWaste Sep 2013 #229

This message was self-deleted by its author lumberjack_jeff Sep 2013 #230

half of the respondents ignored the question asked-which was how young is too young? bettyellen Sep 2013 #231

Granted, I should really read the SOP of the men's group BainsBane Sep 2013 #197

The responses in the thread made clear what the understood meaning was. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2013 #217

Warren specifically asked him to preserve the text of the OP in a post BainsBane Sep 2013 #221

On the other hand, why do you think Warren suggested it? lumberjack_jeff Sep 2013 #223

instead of just saying people are lying, you might want to prove people are lying. what has been seabeyond Sep 2013 #225

You may consider it inappropriate BainsBane Sep 2013 #226

I want to know why several people are pretending the words "age difference" was anywhere in that bettyellen Sep 2013 #227

Damn this is a long thread...I think we need two musical interludes... snooper2 Sep 2013 #213

this was fun. my son seabeyond Sep 2013 #222

What did I miss? JVS Sep 2013 #65

I asked the same LittleBlue Sep 2013 #66

Look in the men's group BainsBane Sep 2013 #85

He asked how young someone had to be before lusting after them would get you labeled a pedophile redqueen Sep 2013 #99

Repugnant. ~nt~ b.durruti Sep 2013 #115

Why do you suppose he made he distinction BainsBane Sep 2013 #82

You should see what we have going in HoF ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #89

If I felt that it would be appreciated, I'd go into HoF and weigh in, but I suspect it wouldn't. Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #165

That OP made DU suck, Warren. Not hard to trace the suckage back to it's source. bettyellen Sep 2013 #90

At least the message is consistent. redqueen Sep 2013 #100

and it's free speech when you say something heinous, but not when you call it that. LOL. bettyellen Sep 2013 #124

And they can ask about how young someone is before lusting after them gets you labeled a "pedophile" redqueen Sep 2013 #135

Don't you know BainsBane Sep 2013 #152

Yeah, I don't know why some people persist with these strawmen. Smacks of insecurity to me. n/t nomorenomore08 Sep 2013 #171

I suppose it's more convenient than actually thinking about BainsBane Sep 2013 #173

Reducing someone to a caricature means never having to say you're so sorry... nomorenomore08 Sep 2013 #175

This message was self-deleted by its author BainsBane Sep 2013 #177

I have to say, some of the stuff in the Men's Group makes me shake my head as well. nomorenomore08 Sep 2013 #178

I've seen you try to be agreeable in there BainsBane Sep 2013 #179

Agreed. Like I said, I have no reason whatsoever to stick up for the guy. nomorenomore08 Sep 2013 #180

The ONLY correct answer to that question was over 18 boston bean Sep 2013 #158

How about we try this- if you have a problem with something I've ACTUALLY said, fine. Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #163

IF that's so, it sounds a lot like gollygee Sep 2013 #159

LOL! Sheldon Cooper Sep 2013 #36

Aw ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #72

:) BainsBane Sep 2013 #80

I think I'm a masochist. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2013 #93

I know, me too. I stopped reading replies to my own OP after the first 2 hours Quantess Sep 2013 #151

Oh, Upaloopa, just because you project, doesn't mean the rest of us do! Squinch Sep 2013 #107

I have idea wtf half of these threads are. Potato chips, anyone? Dash87 Sep 2013 #153

Yes Tien1985 Sep 2013 #169

And sometimes a cigar is a just a cigar Scootaloo Sep 2013 #161

This world is filled with fucked-up, unpleasant people. So why wouldn't a few of them be on DU? nomorenomore08 Sep 2013 #172

statistical probability says some are BainsBane Sep 2013 #174

It's a fragment of a sophomore essay minus a conclusion. Grade: Inc. Hekate Sep 2013 #164

My college 1301 pysch prof told us once LostOne4Ever Sep 2013 #170

TTMFT* Iggo Sep 2013 #187

When you copy and paste, plagiarize something off the intertubes snooper2 Sep 2013 #195

I've called some article authors misogynist, but it was deserved. Dash87 Sep 2013 #198

YES!! 100 plus responses by the same 3 peeps! tjwash Sep 2013 #202

This message was self-deleted by its author William769 Sep 2013 #205

Actually it is about a different member maddezmom Sep 2013 #206

Thanks, then I am clueless. William769 Sep 2013 #209

is "creepy" the new "nasty"? Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2013 #216

I'm also thinking that someone is trying far too hard to rationalize an untenable position LanternWaste Sep 2013 #218

So these terms can never be used? intaglio Sep 2013 #220

otherwise, according to some here- you are making DU suck. All posts should be left to stand without bettyellen Sep 2013 #228

Actually, I do believe in projection, and Squinch Sep 2013 #233

Uh, oh... pipi_k Sep 2013 #232

Interestingly, you just told all of us that, in pointing out rape apologia and pedophilic Squinch Sep 2013 #234

since you called him calling you, does that make you a double rape apologist and pedophilic? nt seabeyond Sep 2013 #235

Makes one nauseous, no? In all kinds of ways. Squinch Sep 2013 #236