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Octafish

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43. Oliver Stone explains how Jim Garrison was on the right trail...
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 11:40 AM
Sep 2013
Jim Garrison, the KGB, and the CIA

An open letter to Foreign Affairs magazine

by Oliver Stone
The Nation magazine, August 5 /12, 2002

Last fall, Nation contributing editor Max Holland wrote an article for the ClA publication Studies in Intelligence asserting that former New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison was duped by a KGB disinformation operation that led him, along with most Americans, to believe that the CIA had been involved in the assassination of President Kennedy.

This spring, Foreign Affairs magazine published a generous review of Hollands article. As co-writers of the film JFK, we sent a reply to Foreign Affairs. The editors refused to publish it. We offered to pay for an ad, but Foreign Affairs again refused.

For the record, here is our reply:


Dear Editors of Foreign Affairs Philip Zelikow's review of Max Holland's recent article in the CIA publication Studies in Intelligence is a disservice to your readers. Zelikow uncritically accepts Holland's theory that a KGB disinformation operation back in 1967 is at the root of most Americans' current belief that the CIA was involved in the assassination of President Kennedy.

Holland's thesis rests on one unproven premise: that the KGB planted a false story in March 1967 in Paese Sera, an Italian leftwing newspaper. The story reported that Clay Shaw, then recently charged with conspiracy to assassinate the President, was a board member of Centro Mondiale Comerciale (CMC), an organization that had been forced out of Italy amid charges that it was a CIA money-laundering front.

The problem Zelikow ignores is that Holland's only evidence to support his premise is one handwritten note by a KGB defector named Vasili Mitrokhin that "refers to a disinformation scheme in 1967 that involved Paese Sera and resulted in publication of a false story in New York." The note, supposedly summarizing a KGB document that Holland has never seen, does not mention Clay Shaw, Centro Mondiale Comerciale, Jim Garrison, or any specific New York publication.

Holland speculates that the New York publication may have been the National Guardian, which based an article on the Paese Sera series. But one short article in an obscure left-wing weekly that routinely picked up stories from the international press does not seem like much of an accomplishment for a KGB disinformation operation. There is no evidence that the Guardian article was picked up anywhere else in the U.S.

Rather than speculate, Holland might have tried to interview the editors of Paese Sera who were responsible for the articles on Centro Mondiale Comerciale, as scholar Joan Mellen has done for her forthcoming biography of Garrison. They would have told him that the six-part series had nothing to do with the KGB or the JFK assassination, that they had never heard of Jim Garrison when they assigned the story six months before, and that they were astonished to see that Shaw might have any connection to the assassination. The articles were actually assigned in the wake of a right-wing coup in Greece and were intended to prevent such a coup in Italy.

Holland says "everything in the Paese Sera story was a lie." His evidence? A recently released CIA document saying that the Agency itself looked into Paese Sera's allegations. and found that the CIA had no connection to CMC or its parent Permindex. Holland may be willing to accept this as the whole truth, but it is unconvincing to the rest of us who have noticed the Agency's tendency to distance itself from its fronts, to release to the public only documents that serve its interest, to fabricate evidence, and to lie outright even under oath to congressional committees.

Two important facts from the Paese Sera story remain true:

1. CMC was forced to leave Italy (for Johannesburg, South Africa) in 1962 under a cloud of suspicion about its CIA connections.

2. Clay Shaw was a member of CMC's board, along with such well-known fascist sympathizers as Gutierrez di Spadaforo, undersecretary of agriculture for Mussolini; Ferenc Nagy, former premier of Hungary, and Giuseppe Zigiotti, president of the Fascist National Association for Militia Arms.


Holland claims that the Paese Sera articles were what led Garrison to believe the CIA was involved in the assassination. This is nonsense. Garrison's book On the Trail of the Assassins describes in detail how his uncovering of various pieces of evidence actually led him to the conclusion that the CIA was involved. This gradual process began two days after the assassination when he questioned David Ferrie, a pilot who flew secret missions to Cuba for the CIA and trained Lee Harvey Oswald in his Civil Air Patrol unit. It included his investigation of a 1961 raid of a munitions cache by CIA operatives in Houma, Louisiana; the discovery that several of Oswald's co-workers at Reily Coffee Company in New Orleans now worked at NASA; the fact that Oswald was working out of an office that was running the CIA's local training camp for Operation Mongoose; many eyewitnesses who saw Clay Shaw, David Ferrie and Oswald together, etc. No doubt the Paese Sera series was another piece of the puzzle for Garrison, but it was not the centerpiece of his thinking that Holland makes it out to be.

From the moment his investigation of the JFK assassination became public, Garrison was pilloried in the press. This treatment was part of an orchestrated effort by the CIA to discredit critics of the Warren Commission. A CIA memo dated April 1, 1967, never mentioned by Holland or Zelikow, outlines the strategy and calls for the Agency's "assets" in the media (writers and editors) to publish stories saying the critics were politically motivated, financially motivated, egomaniacal, sloppy in their research, supported the Soviet Union, etc. This is exactly the inaccurate portrait of Garrison that emerged in the press.

With the publication of Holland's recent article attempting to link Jim Garrison to the KGB, the CIA continues to pursue this misguided strategy of smearing Garrison and other critics of the Warren Commission. Fortunately, the American public has never bought the tired old lie that the CIA's misadventures can be written off as figments of KGB disinformation. Too bad your critic did.



Oliver Stone and Zachary Sklar co-writers of the film JFK
Nope, not quite nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #1
The people who didn't think Oswald as a lone shooter made sense Stupefacto Sep 2013 #2
welcome to du FreakinDJ Sep 2013 #3
No. It was because it was an easy way to make a fast buck. duffyduff Sep 2013 #16
Go to Creative Speculation... MrMickeysMom Sep 2013 #22
I don't care for the conspiracy theories. defacto7 Sep 2013 #33
Are you saying you visited the Texas Book Depository... Bay Boy Sep 2013 #77
Yes on all counts. defacto7 Sep 2013 #81
I've hit lots of moving targets at greater distances than Bay Boy Sep 2013 #96
Wow, You've shot deer from the book depository window? defacto7 Sep 2013 #97
I don't think they let you do that... Bay Boy Sep 2013 #98
"Argument from personal incredulity" fallacy. longship Sep 2013 #101
Good points. defacto7 Sep 2013 #102
Well, the data drives the hypothesis. longship Sep 2013 #103
Looks like I made a hell of a fool of myself.... defacto7 Sep 2013 #104
You are no fool, my friend. You're just human. longship Sep 2013 #105
welcome to DU gopiscrap Sep 2013 #35
Maybe it was Congress. former9thward Sep 2013 #4
Sigh. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #9
Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #13
Oh, wow, linking to the anti-Semitic WhatReallyHappened.com Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #15
Bad site, true, but the Washington Post article is legit, I think. Here's a different source: NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #17
And then Thomas' study was itself torn apart in 2005 Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #19
Not taking a side either way but was notified of the hidden post. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #20
If you want to believe the government's story, that's your prerogative but why would rhett o rick Sep 2013 #49
Congress is still part of the government, yes? Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #55
I may be mistaken, but didnt you alert to have this thread locked? And someone alerted on rhett o rick Sep 2013 #58
Oh, yes, I think I did. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #59
So it was a coincidence that both alerts were leveled against posters that you disagree with? rhett o rick Sep 2013 #60
You do not see me or anyone alerting on EVERY post we disagree with. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #66
Good Grief. nm rhett o rick Sep 2013 #69
"Some think that the government might lie occasionally." nyquil_man Sep 2013 #74
Do you believe everything your government tells you? nm rhett o rick Sep 2013 #85
You can't define "occasionally"? nyquil_man Sep 2013 #94
people who didn't believe in "Magic bullets"??? NightWatcher Sep 2013 #5
The "magic" bullet never existed. Archae Sep 2013 #23
Yeah, Oswald was a "radical leftist" who hung out with right-wingers in Dallas and New Orleans. Zen Democrat Sep 2013 #28
Notice how this simple fact of where they were sitting is completed ignored by the CTers? zappaman Sep 2013 #50
The JFK CT's continue to use this false diagram Archae Sep 2013 #52
Yeah. That must be why Gerald Ford altered the Warren Commission report. Octafish Sep 2013 #68
So Ford replaced "entered his back at a point slightly above the shoulder" Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #70
Why do you want fewer people to learn what happened to President Kennedy, Bolo Boffin? Octafish Sep 2013 #72
I want DU's rules to be respected by you, Octafish. n/t Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #73
What rule did I break, Bolo Boffin? Octafish Sep 2013 #75
You know quite well, Octafish. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #76
You act like an authority, but you can't show where I broke a rule. Octafish Sep 2013 #79
Seriously? zappaman Sep 2013 #87
Seeing how he was murdered while in police custody before trial... Octafish Sep 2013 #92
See what I mean? zappaman Sep 2013 #88
Chair of the Warren Commission, Chief Justice Earl Warren. OnyxCollie Sep 2013 #6
McCloy was no cupcake Octafish Sep 2013 #8
It never gets mentioned that the Warren Commission members did not all agree with its conclusions. dflprincess Sep 2013 #30
wasn't Hale Boggs killed in a questionable plane crash? nt grasswire Sep 2013 #32
Yes. And do you know who drove him to the airport? AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #78
Bill Clinton n/t dflprincess Sep 2013 #83
wow indie9197 Sep 2013 #84
While you are researching, it may be worthwhile AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #89
Yes he was. dflprincess Sep 2013 #82
Disinformationists, Misinformationists, and the Truth. Octafish Sep 2013 #7
The right hand didn't know what the left was doing Taverner Sep 2013 #27
Mass Media ignoring 'RFK Believed in Conspiracy' shows corrupt nature of America's Press Octafish Sep 2013 #46
Paranoid schizophrenics, others with mental health disorders that cause disordered thinking REP Sep 2013 #10
bah..... whistler162 Sep 2013 #11
It was love that killed Kennedy! Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #12
The House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) © 1976 MinM Sep 2013 #14
Sen. Richard Schweiker[R-PA]:"The Warren Commission has collapsed like a House of Cards" MinM Sep 2013 #37
Active measures. joshcryer Sep 2013 #18
It was a lack of trust in its own government by the people which gave rise to the JFK conspiracy Samantha Sep 2013 #21
You win. Boomerproud Sep 2013 #99
Yup YoungDemCA Oct 2013 #108
Why would the KGB spread these conspiracy theories? Archae Sep 2013 #24
Damn that Putin n/t Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #29
The people who covered up the crime. n/t Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #25
KGB, NSA, CIA, Stasi, take a number Taverner Sep 2013 #26
If there were other bullets fired, where did they hit? Recursion Sep 2013 #36
Oh sure they started ALL conspiracies about JFK Rex Sep 2013 #31
who was resposible gopiscrap Sep 2013 #34
Oh, right. The KGB. SOOO much more sinister than the CIA! WinkyDink Sep 2013 #38
That make sens. Today RT is doing a lot of the same job : alienate The US left from the Center. Nt Sand Wind Sep 2013 #39
And there it is RZM Sep 2013 #62
Kick . Nt Sand Wind Sep 2013 #40
After 2 congressional investigations I thought we had most of the answers but this documentary KurtNYC Sep 2013 #41
LOL! your source is a teenage humor magazine aolwien Sep 2013 #42
Oliver Stone explains how Jim Garrison was on the right trail... Octafish Sep 2013 #43
Oliver Stone? Archae Sep 2013 #45
JFK the movie wasn't a documentary. Octafish Sep 2013 #47
Not to mention what a farce the Shaw trial was. zappaman Sep 2013 #48
"Shoot Him Down" -- NBC, the CIA and Jim Garrison Octafish Sep 2013 #56
And a liar. zappaman Sep 2013 #57
No, Garrison wasn't a liar. That's what the CIA and FBI want you to think. Octafish Sep 2013 #61
Here's what JFK researcher Harold Weisberg thought. zappaman Sep 2013 #63
I don't understand why you make fun of the BFEE, zappaman. Octafish Sep 2013 #64
Yawn. zappaman Sep 2013 #65
Wow! An acolyte of McAdams, the professional debunker. Octafish Sep 2013 #71
Cuz they pay well, my good friend. zappaman Sep 2013 #86
You mock me for posting about the crimes and treasons of the BFEE... Octafish Sep 2013 #90
we need a bullwhip toting, hard nosed investigative journalist to get down to the bottom of why dionysus Apr 2014 #109
Evidence contradicting the official version? NT jakeXT Sep 2013 #44
I opposed the unrec, from the beginning. Laelth Sep 2013 #51
lol. grantcart Sep 2013 #93
The Dallas Police Department. thucythucy Sep 2013 #53
Obviously, the KGB wasn't alone in spreading JFK conspiracy theories. Archae Sep 2013 #54
Mark Lane played a pretty significant role. nyquil_man Sep 2013 #67
Pauley Perrette (NCIS' Abby) produced Citizen Lane MinM Sep 2013 #80
Executive Action (1973) MinM Sep 2013 #91
That film is chilling dflprincess Sep 2013 #100
The Parallax View MinM Sep 2013 #106
Thanks for the tip. dflprincess Sep 2013 #107
Warren Commission, Dorothy Kilgallen, the fact that Dallas cops let Oswald get shot Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #95
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