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BrotherIvan

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18. Thanks for the link

Mon Sep 16, 2013, 12:02 PM

Sep 2013

I'm going to try to find his autobiography. I have come across him in my readings because of the legends of the Danites and Porter Rockwell. That period of history was so bloody and there was so much intrigue. Because of all the denials, it's hard to see the picture clearly. What a weird and curious history the Mormons have.

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belatedly, ANOTHER 11 september event--the mormon mountain meadow massacre [View all] niyad Sep 2013 OP

The Danites, led by my g-g-g-grandfather, probably actually did it. kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #1

did you see the movie about the massacre, called "september dawn"? I tried watching it, but niyad Sep 2013 #3

Yes, I did. It's especially chilling, knowing what I know. kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #7

not exactly the sort of ancestor of whom one is proud. the small amount of research I have done niyad Sep 2013 #10

Actually, he was a very interesting person when not murdering for the church. kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #11

Very interesting BrotherIvan Sep 2013 #13

He's famous. He published his autobiography in the 1800s. kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #17

Thanks for the link BrotherIvan Sep 2013 #18

He was Chief of the Danites, and answered only to Joe Smith and Brigham Young. kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #29

a most interesting person indeed. and yes, one does wonder-- he really was brave then. niyad Sep 2013 #14

have you heard about this new show? niyad Sep 2013 #16

Nobody ever likes to talk about the excess males that don't fit into this system. kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #28

From the web page, "Your Heroes Are Not Our Heroes." www.brotherhooddays.com mikekohr Sep 2013 #2

thank you for this excellent information niyad Sep 2013 #4

This event was pointed out to my RW friends when Romney was running for president Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #5

I got a lot of flack when I pointed this event out to the reichwingnutjobs here. niyad Sep 2013 #6

Actually I did not get a good response either but it gave Romney a knock. Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #8

I occasionally encounter a woman who still wears an rmoney/ryan button on her jacket. she lives niyad Sep 2013 #9

Would you think she might be a part of the 47%? Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #12

. . . niyad Sep 2013 #15

This is certainly well worth discussing, less anybody accidentally trust any of those hated Mormons el_bryanto Sep 2013 #19

Every faith has to confront the ugliness of its past. Lutherans have to deal geek tragedy Sep 2013 #21

Yep - and this is the perfect place to do it. el_bryanto Sep 2013 #23

I never miss an opportunity to bash Martin Luther, as you can read. geek tragedy Sep 2013 #24

Why not? I mean the people who committed the Mountain Meadows Massacre had a set of beliefs el_bryanto Sep 2013 #25

Nationalism, tribalism, ethnocentrism, and religious fanaticism are hardly geek tragedy Sep 2013 #26

Yes, I am descended from Baptists who twisted their religion csziggy Sep 2013 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Sep 2013 #31

how sad CountAllVotes Sep 2013 #27

actually, it is well worth discussing, for many reasons. you will notice that this thread was about niyad Sep 2013 #32

What aspects of it are well worth discussing and applicable in our modern era? nt el_bryanto Sep 2013 #34

~~30~~ niyad Sep 2013 #36

Well if that's the point - that I should abandon Mormonism - and that's why this issue needs to be el_bryanto Sep 2013 #37

Brigham Young was the Yasser Arafat of American history. nt geek tragedy Sep 2013 #20

i thought there was a good account of this in "Under the Banner of Heaven" Scout Sep 2013 #22

thank you. couldn't think of the name of the book. niyad Sep 2013 #33

. . . niyad Sep 2013 #35