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hlthe2b

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59. We expected to have to fight tooth and nail under GWB* to avoid enacting horrendously harmful

Mon Sep 16, 2013, 05:45 PM

Sep 2013

policies and legislation. I think many of us felt we had deserved at least a miniscule break from that under Obama--whose rhetoric and stated positions surely suggested we "might relax" just a bit.

That we are having to remain nearly every bit as vigilant--in contrast to his stated positions--is exhausting and has further eroded trust, I do agree. I know that all Presidents are in an isolated bubble and there is always a risk that the big moneyed and powerful interests will have his ear over the people. With Obama, I felt we could retain confidence that he would fight those interests, nonetheless and not float their policies and "trial balloons"... That we have had to fight against our own party's President so often and so vigorously rightfully leaves many angry or at least somewhat disillusioned.

Maybe it is because we aren't hearing the full story, but if that is the case, I have to fault the administration for that as well.

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HE'S GONNA CUT SS!!!! (didn't happen) HE'S GONNA INVADE SYRIA!!! (didn't happen) HE'S GONNA NOMINATE [View all] Skraxx Sep 2013 OP

JOBS PROGRAM didn't happen EFCA didn't happen leftstreet Sep 2013 #1

He was against Single Payer during his campaign Roland99 Sep 2013 #15

PUBLIC OPTION didn't happen leftstreet Sep 2013 #19

Well if you're gonna be picky. tblue Sep 2013 #218

So why didn't those things happen? Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #17

Yeah, and he fought so hard for the Public Option leftstreet Sep 2013 #21

There you go again Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #23

I credit him for keeping two of his promises leftstreet Sep 2013 #28

What are your thoughts on the repeal of DADT? Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #31

...or Putin. nt tridim Sep 2013 #38

Putin played him like a fiddle with Snowden... cascadiance Sep 2013 #60

Okay, but that was one area that corporate america absolutely DOES NOT CARE ABOUT! cascadiance Sep 2013 #41

What about the withdrawal from Iraq? Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #47

Have we REALLY withdrawn from Iraq? And Wall Street reform? LOL! cascadiance Sep 2013 #70

How about jazzimov Sep 2013 #203

He starts a task force now to do WHAT? Statute of limitations has run out on many of the crimes! cascadiance Sep 2013 #221

Better than extending Bush Tax Cuts leftstreet Sep 2013 #48

What about Wall Street reform? Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #49

LOL 60% of which hasn't even happened? leftstreet Sep 2013 #61

What about the withdrawal from Iraq? Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #65

Where's all the money 'we' saved? leftstreet Sep 2013 #69

What about the signing of the new START treaty? Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #86

1 in 6 Americans experience food insecurity n/t leftstreet Sep 2013 #89

What about being the first President to endorse same sex marriage? Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #91

3+ million homeless in the US n/t leftstreet Sep 2013 #98

What about the signing of the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act? Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #104

20+ million need fulltime jobs n/t leftstreet Sep 2013 #105

What about the signing of the childrens health insurance reauthorization act? Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #116

So...Congress ISN'T obstructing him? leftstreet Sep 2013 #121

What about executive order to repeal restrictions on federal funding for stem cell research? Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #134

So...Congress ISN'T obstructing him? leftstreet Sep 2013 #138

What about the signing of the Christopher and Dana Reeve Paralysis Act? Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #145

Answer the question that was posed to you. nt jazzimov Sep 2013 #205

Make me n/t leftstreet Sep 2013 #219

What about the expansion of Medicaid to people under 65? Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #228

Yawn leftynyc Sep 2013 #238

Soo... quakerboy Sep 2013 #168

that's it? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #52

Not sure if he ever washed Boehner's car leftstreet Sep 2013 #87

How about his supreme court picks? leftynyc Sep 2013 #237

Criticizing sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #170

As I recall he got health care laws passed.....nt lyonn Sep 2013 #107

HE DID. Blame the responsible people. jazzimov Sep 2013 #202

The same goes for striking Syria and cutting Social Security, you know. Marr Sep 2013 #44

You seem to sneak "It certainly wasnt Obama's fault", into every post. You know it loses something rhett o rick Sep 2013 #171

So whose fault was it? jazzimov Sep 2013 #206

Oh of course, but those that are soo enamored with Pres Obama that they cant see straight rhett o rick Sep 2013 #211

He'll NEVER get credit so long as his skin is not white. You know it. I know it. Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #241

I figure the government shutdown by repukes over the budget will be the "next big deal" snooper2 Sep 2013 #2

He's NOT going to end the Iraq war!!!! JoePhilly Sep 2013 #3

U.S. multinationals control Iraq oil, hence war is over. ozone_man Sep 2013 #210

Thanks for proving my point. JoePhilly Sep 2013 #234

This is simplistic but sharp_stick Sep 2013 #4

Oh look another STFU post. Warren Stupidity Sep 2013 #5

+1000 n/t n2doc Sep 2013 #6

Yes that's exactly what it said sharp_stick Sep 2013 #7

Oh Look, Another "I Just Make Shit Up About Your Post Post" Skraxx Sep 2013 #8

Maybe he confused your post with this one (which actually told people to STFU): Scurrilous Sep 2013 #146

LOL! Thats Awesome! Skraxx Sep 2013 #157

Love it!!! Stellar Sep 2013 #160

Don't forget this Jewel of Gibberish Number23 Sep 2013 #217

"Jewel of Gibberish" LOL Scurrilous Sep 2013 #225

I dunno. You *could* go work on an issues campaign now Kolesar Sep 2013 #11

The 101st Chairborne Keyboard Warriors Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #24

And convinced they got Snowden to safety! ... eom Kolesar Sep 2013 #34

It's pure STUPIDITY!! Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #39

...and still waiting for the thoughtful analyis [n/t] Maedhros Sep 2013 #150

In an earlier post you claimed you post analyses with your little insults an smilies... Maedhros Sep 2013 #148

^=== This. nt IdaBriggs Sep 2013 #242

astoundingly enough, I can do many things over the course of a day Warren Stupidity Sep 2013 #37

well, it's not working so well, is it? Whisp Sep 2013 #22

Yes, Right on! I'll keep YELLING ABOUT THE TPP!!! Because Obama isn't doing a DAMN THING about it! cascadiance Sep 2013 #33

they have SO jumped the shark Skittles Sep 2013 #54

Hey, didn't you know? Art_from_Ark Sep 2013 #184

NOPE! Just a reality check. jazzimov Sep 2013 #207

Well said. polichick Sep 2013 #229

How about that! gopiscrap Sep 2013 #9

Pres Obama has been talking to Putin regarding a diplomatic solution re Syria since June 2012 Tx4obama Sep 2013 #10

Shhh, It's More Fun My Way! Skraxx Sep 2013 #12

Yes, Pres Obama is quite capable of negotiating and making plans and decisions Cha Sep 2013 #108

+1 sheshe2 Sep 2013 #179

did they talk about throwing David Cameron to the wolves? frylock Sep 2013 #149

They never loved Dave Celefin Sep 2013 #233

OSCARS all around! frylock Sep 2013 #244

That' so true, if they had an effect treestar Sep 2013 #13

Who is 'they?' n/t leftstreet Sep 2013 #14

Doesn't really matter, just as long as there is somebody to hate. Rex Sep 2013 #20

Shhh! Here's The Reason, Keep it to Yourself: Skraxx Sep 2013 #16

Skraxx, that is so true! Isoldeblue Sep 2013 #156

Remeber a few days ago when you said opposition to Summers was 'abject hatred' but Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #32

Well. TreeStar knows about Summers NOW. Vanje Sep 2013 #63

Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #208

Did you just call me a pompous asshole? Vanje Sep 2013 #209

"You have plenty of rights." QC Sep 2013 #235

Ugh Capt. Obvious Sep 2013 #239

I see Vanje Sep 2013 #243

Yep and I plan on repeating that particular gem Puglover Sep 2013 #247

Those both should have been instant tombstones. n/t QC Sep 2013 #248

You mad bro!? Rex Sep 2013 #18

Aww, Poor You, Am I Reminding You Of Some of your Failed Prognostications and Faux Outrage? Skraxx Sep 2013 #35

The only person that seems to be uncomfortable (learn how to spell the word) Rex Sep 2013 #40

Now Spelling Flames? Oh! The Humanity! Skraxx Sep 2013 #43

Your projection aside Rex Sep 2013 #46

So, You Were Wrong and Now You're Upset About It? Skraxx Sep 2013 #51

Not at all, I am glad Summers did not get the nod. Rex Sep 2013 #53

I'm Actually Laughing at all the Constant Outrage that turns out to be Bullshit Skraxx Sep 2013 #55

I do? Your attempt to put words and ideas in my mouth is laughable. Rex Sep 2013 #58

It's Ok, You Don't Have to Be Ashamed of Being Wrong Skraxx Sep 2013 #62

The projection from you is making me LOL. Rex Sep 2013 #64

See! Just Let it Go and Laugh! You Don't Have to be Embarrassed About Your Constant Outrage Skraxx Sep 2013 #68

But I am not constantly outraged, only YOU show signs of that in this OP. Rex Sep 2013 #71

You're Not Constantly Outraged?! Good to Hear! Skraxx Sep 2013 #73

Yeah it only took you this many replies to figure that out. Rex Sep 2013 #76

Now Your Angry? No Need To Be Angry! I Thought You Were Laughing? Cheer Up Pal! Skraxx Sep 2013 #81

No I feel sad for you...clearly you are a very angry person. Rex Sep 2013 #82

Oh, Now You're Sad? From Laughing, To Angry, To Sad...You Sound a Bit Manic, Friend Skraxx Sep 2013 #88

Like I said I feel sad for you because Rex Sep 2013 #93

Really, These Mood Swings of Yours Are Something You Should Have Looked In To Skraxx Sep 2013 #96

So you are just going to stay angry over nothing? Rex Sep 2013 #97

Are You Coming On To Me? Skraxx Sep 2013 #99

You can change the subject if I made you feel uncomfortable about your anger Rex Sep 2013 #101

It's Clear You're Very Interested In Me, And I'm Flattered! Skraxx Sep 2013 #103

Wow, so you really are extremely mad. Rex Sep 2013 #106

You're Cute, Especially When You're All Flustered! Skraxx Sep 2013 #111

Ah projection again, my my my. Rex Sep 2013 #112

Briefs? Skraxx Sep 2013 #113

Out of things to say? I understand, don't be embarrassed! Rex Sep 2013 #114

Don't Be Shy! Skraxx Sep 2013 #115

More nonsense? Rex Sep 2013 #117

You're Adorable, Like a Lil Puppy! Come Here Lil Fella! Skraxx Sep 2013 #118

Yes I know, you cannot quit because the rage prevents it. Rex Sep 2013 #119

Run! Fetch! Skraxx Sep 2013 #120

Exactly, stay angry! Rex Sep 2013 #122

Roll Over! Skraxx Sep 2013 #123

You are shaking with anger and frustration and I am loving it! Rex Sep 2013 #124

Good Boy! Skraxx Sep 2013 #125

Must be horrible to be so mad all the time. Rex Sep 2013 #126

Have A Scooby Snack Lil' Guy! Skraxx Sep 2013 #127

That makes as much sense as your OP does. Rex Sep 2013 #128

Now Stay, Stay...Fetch! Skraxx Sep 2013 #131

That actually makes more sense then your OP does. Rex Sep 2013 #132

Cool! Bowing, That's A New Trick! Good Boy! Have a Cookie! Skraxx Sep 2013 #133

No I am bowing to the audience for my efforts at making you look silly. Rex Sep 2013 #135

Such A Cutie! Here, Let Me Scratch That Spot That Makes Your Leg Move! Skraxx Sep 2013 #137

I know you cannot help yourself, that is why you suffer from anger Rex Sep 2013 #140

Atta Boy! Kick It! kick it Good! Skraxx Sep 2013 #151

Oh you sneaky person you! Rex Sep 2013 #153

Are you serious? NuclearDem Sep 2013 #163

As a heart attack or clown shoes, whichever is more seriouser Skraxx Sep 2013 #164

STOP IT REX Skittles Sep 2013 #181

Hey I had 30 minutes to kill Rex Sep 2013 #187

I'll be avoiding Scooby Snacks, for sure Skittles Sep 2013 #200

Lol, exactly! nt Union Scribe Sep 2013 #216

Well, it's too bad that we have to play defense Broward Sep 2013 #25

"Why are we angry again?" NoOneMan Sep 2013 #26

If we are making him do it, then by being noisy we are doing the right thing... Agnosticsherbet Sep 2013 #27

Is Someone Telling You Not To? Skraxx Sep 2013 #30

He gets credit for doing the right things, and condemnation for the wrong things. Agnosticsherbet Sep 2013 #36

In Representative Democratic Republic he is NOT your "employee" Skraxx Sep 2013 #50

So a representative doesn't have to listen to those who he "represents"? cascadiance Sep 2013 #102

Is That What I Said? Skraxx Sep 2013 #110

Perhaps not in so many words . . markpkessinger Sep 2013 #129

Or Not At All Skraxx Sep 2013 #136

Then which is it? markpkessinger Sep 2013 #141

Remember, Obama was forced to pull Van Jones, Goodwin Liu, and other progressives frazzled Sep 2013 #74

lack of trust is a problem alc Sep 2013 #29

The problem with understanding a plan is that President Obama will always have more information Agnosticsherbet Sep 2013 #45

We expected to have to fight tooth and nail under GWB* to avoid enacting horrendously harmful hlthe2b Sep 2013 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author leftstreet Sep 2013 #42

If the left hadn't made so much noise about Summers . . . markpkessinger Sep 2013 #56

Uhh, You Didn't Read The OP, Did You? Skraxx Sep 2013 #57

Uhh, yes I did . . . markpkessinger Sep 2013 #75

Reading Comprehension Must Not Be Your Strong Suit Skraxx Sep 2013 #78

I'm not sure it is "listening" when . . . markpkessinger Sep 2013 #84

I Love It That You Can Read Obama's Mind! That's So Cool! Can You Teach Me How To Do That? Skraxx Sep 2013 #92

I'm draiwing my conclusion based on what I believe is the most plausible one based on events . . . markpkessinger Sep 2013 #100

Ahh Yes, The."Plausible" Explanation for all of Obamas Actions Skraxx Sep 2013 #161

Plausibility is a far more convincing basis for argument than appeals to "Obama the Omniscient" n/t markpkessinger Sep 2013 #165

And people claim he's omniscient......where? Skraxx Sep 2013 #169

It was hyperbole, just as much of your OP is... markpkessinger Sep 2013 #185

You Must Be Confused, Obama Is Apparently Only Making Decisions Skraxx Sep 2013 #189

A better question is whether you wrote one. cthulu2016 Sep 2013 #80

Not really he is just really, really mad and is projecting it onto others. Rex Sep 2013 #83

So, The Left is Not Responsible for Stopping Obama's Corporate Machinisms? Skraxx Sep 2013 #85

Yes, I am going to marry a carrot. cthulu2016 Sep 2013 #90

I Love Wedding! I'll Bring a Date, I Just Met an Adorable Cabbage I've Been Meaning to Ask Out Skraxx Sep 2013 #94

... Rex Sep 2013 #95

Shit? Spoon. Spoon? Shit. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2013 #66

The foam is strong in this one... Rex Sep 2013 #67

Oh bleah truebluegreen Sep 2013 #143

Careful. The perpetually outraged don't like it... SidDithers Sep 2013 #72

Is that what he's doing? RetroLounge Sep 2013 #212

Dumbest post ever. mick063 Sep 2013 #77

I've seen dumber, but not by much. Rex Sep 2013 #79

... Boom Sound 416 Sep 2013 #142

LOL! Rex Sep 2013 #144

I couldn't resist Boom Sound 416 Sep 2013 #147

That was great timing! Rex Sep 2013 #152

They say it's everything Boom Sound 416 Sep 2013 #154

Thanks I needed that. Rex Sep 2013 #155

thank God for the Left that does keep the pressure on and at least prevents the worse. I would Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #109

We've got to have something up our collective wazoo shenmue Sep 2013 #130

I actually tire of being a moral compass for politicians. MyNameGoesHere Sep 2013 #139

I'm only angry with the initial plan. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #158

Even though none of this happen, I'm sure there is atleast 20% of the population that believe it did Snake Plissken Sep 2013 #159

Odd, he did put SS/Medicare cuts on the table, as well as an illegal strike on Syria stupidicus Sep 2013 #162

He hasn't blown up the moon YET either, but I hear its on the same table Skraxx Sep 2013 #166

thanks for conceding the validity of my observations and accompanying remarks stupidicus Sep 2013 #174

Did You Recall The Candied Yams? Skraxx Sep 2013 #178

further concessions/examples of your impotence stupidicus Sep 2013 #192

Now You're Soliciting Me? Skraxx Sep 2013 #193

showcasing your abysmal reading comp skills won't help either stupidicus Sep 2013 #201

Social Security /CPI Nite Owl Sep 2013 #167

And it's been cut exactly .......never by Obama Skraxx Sep 2013 #172

Must be something in the BOG water. Marr Sep 2013 #173

And they come out only to disparage the left and disrupt. Dont they recognize that is playing into rhett o rick Sep 2013 #177

lol! Yep. Marr Sep 2013 #226

....and now, I do too Vanje Sep 2013 #246

. . . . . . . WilliamPitt Sep 2013 #175

So do I understand that you are disparaging the left? Isnt that helping the right? rhett o rick Sep 2013 #176

Honey, I Know U Probably Think You're All that as far as the Left is Concerned Skraxx Sep 2013 #180

Your childish response is just silly. You are disparaging the left. Obama isnt on the left. rhett o rick Sep 2013 #182

Ridiculing and laughing at dead enders is a reward unto itself! Skraxx Sep 2013 #183

Childish, condescending, and stupidly wrong LondonReign2 Sep 2013 #188

Stupid! Wrong! Smash! Obama bad! Me smash! Skraxx Sep 2013 #190

Wow. Keep up the stupid, you're doing great LondonReign2 Sep 2013 #194

Stupid stupid stupid? Skraxx Sep 2013 #196

If I wanted to argue with a person with the mentality of a 3rd grader I'd talk LondonReign2 Sep 2013 #197

Stupid? BOG!!!! Skraxx Sep 2013 #199

Posting while intoxicated is generally discouraged. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #204

But can be funny at times. Rex Sep 2013 #223

That has pretty much been his tone throughout this thread markpkessinger Sep 2013 #224

He's quickly becoming a legend. A... Marr Sep 2013 #232

LOL. love the pretzel logic. La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2013 #186

DUers don't think he should have "put everything on the table." joshcryer Sep 2013 #191

Do you think a Democratic President should have put LondonReign2 Sep 2013 #195

Where os this confounded table I keep hearing so mich about? Skraxx Sep 2013 #198

Silly question. If President Obama privatized SS the "Group" would rejoice. After all he knows best rhett o rick Sep 2013 #227

Just when I thought I'd seen the most stupid posts ever on DU RetroLounge Sep 2013 #213

Not sure the exact premise of your post, but I'd like to think it was only because I and many others silvershadow Sep 2013 #214

Lol, feel better now? Union Scribe Sep 2013 #215

As soon as he says thank you to us:) grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #220

Because my cousin just got married to his boyfriend. bravenak Sep 2013 #222

Pretzel logic. JackRiddler Sep 2013 #230

What a juvenile and myopic OP. cui bono Sep 2013 #231

You've dared to mock their Wheel Of Outrage. JoePhilly Sep 2013 #236

RTTT happened. LWolf Sep 2013 #240

since silence = consent i will gladly choose dissent every time. NuttyFluffers Sep 2013 #245

The only thing more pointless than this OP AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #249

K&R Jamaal510 Sep 2013 #250

It's not because he didn't try all three of those things. Raksha Sep 2013 #251