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Eleanors38

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104. I understand, and I've been there.

Mon Sep 16, 2013, 05:02 PM

Sep 2013

I think some of here have found a punching bag in the personages of some gun-owners, and have done their dead-level best to associate the large majority of gun-owners -- of which DU gun-owners are a part -- with their punching bag. And believe me, great latitude is given those who want to talk "penis, paranoia", and symbolic puke about fellow DUers. This underwrites many of the posts here. But the folks who support 2A here are not the sort to back off or be shamed; in fact, some will double down.

I don't like seeing violence, but that gimmick bump "discovery" (it's hardly a technology) has been around for a while. Personally, I don't object to claasification of accessories which build-in that practice as falling under the rubric of machine guns. Trouble is, even a conventional semi-auto might be made to operate by bump fire. How is the practice regulated? And I've never seen this hat & cane gun useage in any crime.

Both sides in this debate will face sober questions in a few years when "firearms" no longer use fire, but instead electricity, and are "printed."

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Legal Loophole Allows New Belt-Fed AR-15 That Sprays Bullets Like a Machine Gun [View all] onehandle Sep 2013 OP

well, it's a good thing only responsible gun owners will own them. KG Sep 2013 #1

Because the only thing this planet needs is more bullets malaise Sep 2013 #2

Stock of this company just went up.... Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #3

Why, it does not work for rifle rounds Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #7

Of course if you fire too many rounds in a burst, the thing will overheat & jam. Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #4

It may have nothing to do with hate... HereSince1628 Sep 2013 #31

Putting yourself in danger for sport is one thing Mopar151 Sep 2013 #77

I find that pretty easy to agree with...I was just making an observation HereSince1628 Sep 2013 #80

I've worked with a serious (legal) machine gun collector. Mopar151 Sep 2013 #87

And I've done serious work with an M-60 machine gun. Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #90

You, my Dad, and most other real combat vets. Mopar151 Sep 2013 #106

As liberalmike27 Sep 2013 #50

I don't see hate. Who's hating what? 2ndAmForComputers Sep 2013 #88

Hate for anyone who owns a firearm. GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #89

Who's exercising that hate? 2ndAmForComputers Sep 2013 #91

look at any gun thread, you will see it. GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #93

more really big news Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #5

At $6000 I doubt that ANY will be used in any sort of shooting rl6214 Sep 2013 #9

They won't be able to keep up with demand for them. (nt) Paladin Sep 2013 #14

I doubt that nt Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #21

Well you can buy a standard slide fore stock for about $300 Adrahil Sep 2013 #53

"They will sell very few..." 99Forever Sep 2013 #10

Um... krispos42 Sep 2013 #17

Yeah, ain't it wonderful? 99Forever Sep 2013 #18

So I assume Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #22

By all means, continue fretting over the least-likely things to kill you. krispos42 Sep 2013 #49

Yeah, that bump-firing video sure went away in a hurry, didn't it? Paladin Sep 2013 #48

I had zero difficulty finding one on YouTube krispos42 Sep 2013 #51

If it makes you feel better to shift blame like that, feel free. Paladin Sep 2013 #52

Historical precedent is on my side. krispos42 Sep 2013 #59

Extra credit for the "bleeds over" description. Paladin Sep 2013 #63

They're mostly nothing.. RetroLounge Sep 2013 #117

"what POSSIBLE responsible, PEACEFUL reason is there for a private citizen to own such a thing? " etherealtruth Sep 2013 #23

A story about this gun got on CNN. Mothers saw this gun on CNN. onehandle Sep 2013 #11

Would you object to a story about a new derivative structure that allowed banks to dodge DanTex Sep 2013 #15

we do not have a limit as far Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #24

We also have an exception right now for guns. DanTex Sep 2013 #25

I do not think this story qualifies for an exception Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #28

The fact that effectively full-auto weapons can be sold due to a loophole in the law DanTex Sep 2013 #30

as shown in this thread Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #32

In which case the loophole in the law is even bigger than the OP says. DanTex Sep 2013 #35

so you would confiscate Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #38

That's a different question, but at least I would want them registered. DanTex Sep 2013 #44

That's okay. Igel Sep 2013 #20

Well said. nt oldhippie Sep 2013 #55

A spree shooter doesn't give a shit about the future longevity of the barrel. Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #78

So outlaw the bump stock Recursion Sep 2013 #6

Works for me Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #8

I agree. This should have already been done. (n/t) spin Sep 2013 #12

It works for me... if we can define how fast a gun may shoot before it's a machine gun. krispos42 Sep 2013 #47

So, don't allow adjustable stocks? Adrahil Sep 2013 #56

Adjustable, yes. krispos42 Sep 2013 #58

what happens if my latch breaks? Am I suddenly in possession of an illegal machine gun? Adrahil Sep 2013 #85

Only if it's spring-loaded a certain way. krispos42 Sep 2013 #86

Why? If it serves no purpose, then why ban it, because it seems scary? nt Adrahil Sep 2013 #54

Agreed. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #67

Looks like a jamming nightmare to me... Monster_Mash Sep 2013 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author Recursion Sep 2013 #60

Technical analysis: krispos42 Sep 2013 #16

Oh goody. Gun porn in GD. 99Forever Sep 2013 #19

A Greenwald fan taunting a gun owner on DU Kolesar Sep 2013 #26

Sorry for informing you with objective facts. krispos42 Sep 2013 #42

You're just speaking facts with your face, here derby378 Sep 2013 #100

I just hate it when people post gun porn in GD. rrneck Sep 2013 #57

Are you saying the OP is "gun porn," or the other videos? Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #70

99 doesn't last forever snooper2 Sep 2013 #82

Ahhh ... a true wit! 99Forever Sep 2013 #107

Gun porn disgusts you? GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #92

Gun humpers disgust me. 99Forever Sep 2013 #108

ahh, ok, but gun porn is just fine! GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #113

Is that what I said? 99Forever Sep 2013 #114

you didn't dispute it. n/t GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #115

... 99Forever Sep 2013 #116

...... GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #119

Boi-oi-oi-oi-oing! Iggo Sep 2013 #40

... rrneck Sep 2013 #27

"Spray" is an incorrect term. "Belt-fed" is inaccurate. There's no such thing as a "machine gun," alcibiades_mystery Sep 2013 #29

and where have you seen these Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #34

LOL. It's really just the same as a rubber band! Do you want to ban rubber bands? DanTex Sep 2013 #36

Gosh, Dan, you're really worried about this? Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #71

Stick around and you might learn something. ManiacJoe Sep 2013 #97

Looks like fun but at $6,000... I'll pass. HolyMoley Sep 2013 #33

????? heaven05 Sep 2013 #46

6k could go a long way to complete my must have list. ileus Sep 2013 #62

I'd like an old Remington model 81 in .35. That'll bump you. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #72

Limited only by your Wallet. formercia Sep 2013 #37

Constitution!!! Iggo Sep 2013 #39

Belt fed, sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #41

god bless amerika heaven05 Sep 2013 #43

Are you OK, heaven 05? Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #73

some days, no heaven05 Sep 2013 #84

I understand, and I've been there. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #104

well given the fact that heaven05 Sep 2013 #105

Perhaps those who wish to reduce the occurences of Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #109

I have no problem with anything you said heaven05 Sep 2013 #110

And just in time for the holdays! matt819 Sep 2013 #45

useless gimmick ileus Sep 2013 #61

Would have to agree The Straight Story Sep 2013 #65

I've shot a slide fire AR-15 Abq_Sarah Sep 2013 #66

I've saw several come up of facebook for sale. ileus Sep 2013 #79

You sure do know how to yank the chain of the anti-gunnies, onehandle. aikoaiko Sep 2013 #64

Now ain't that so fucking special! indepat Sep 2013 #68

After you are done paying $6000 for the rifle, ManiacJoe Sep 2013 #69

Hell, I'd use 6k for new plumbing. Then, I'd start on the house. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #74

I hear you there! ManiacJoe Sep 2013 #95

If it's made in America and people are buying the thing then more power to them. nt Demo_Chris Sep 2013 #75

Jesus Christ and why the fuck do we need this type of weapon? gopiscrap Sep 2013 #76

It is not about "need", it is about "want". ManiacJoe Sep 2013 #94

yeah you're right gopiscrap Sep 2013 #96

You see, this is the problem. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #98

Then don't disassociate the deadly weapon part. ManiacJoe Sep 2013 #99

You appeared to be advocating shooting just because it was fun. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #101

I am advocating shooting just because it is fun. ManiacJoe Sep 2013 #103

I shoot for recreation hack89 Sep 2013 #111

And all the gun enthusiasts will flock to buy it. Because they can. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #81

So ban the damn things. hack89 Sep 2013 #83

Anyone here notice that these Slide Fire stocks have been on sale for TWO YEARS? derby378 Sep 2013 #102

Defending gun culture... Today! onehandle Sep 2013 #112

I'll pass... Adam-Bomb Sep 2013 #118