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niyad

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32. actually, it is well worth discussing, for many reasons. you will notice that this thread was about

Mon Sep 16, 2013, 07:24 PM

Sep 2013

one of a number of horrific incidents related to the date 11 september. I will point out the date of the sand creek massacre when that comes around, as I do the ludlow massacre, and the triangle fire. incidents that happened on specific dates. that you choose to extrapolate an attack from that is your issue, not mine.

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belatedly, ANOTHER 11 september event--the mormon mountain meadow massacre [View all] niyad Sep 2013 OP

The Danites, led by my g-g-g-grandfather, probably actually did it. kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #1

did you see the movie about the massacre, called "september dawn"? I tried watching it, but niyad Sep 2013 #3

Yes, I did. It's especially chilling, knowing what I know. kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #7

not exactly the sort of ancestor of whom one is proud. the small amount of research I have done niyad Sep 2013 #10

Actually, he was a very interesting person when not murdering for the church. kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #11

Very interesting BrotherIvan Sep 2013 #13

He's famous. He published his autobiography in the 1800s. kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #17

Thanks for the link BrotherIvan Sep 2013 #18

He was Chief of the Danites, and answered only to Joe Smith and Brigham Young. kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #29

a most interesting person indeed. and yes, one does wonder-- he really was brave then. niyad Sep 2013 #14

have you heard about this new show? niyad Sep 2013 #16

Nobody ever likes to talk about the excess males that don't fit into this system. kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #28

From the web page, "Your Heroes Are Not Our Heroes." www.brotherhooddays.com mikekohr Sep 2013 #2

thank you for this excellent information niyad Sep 2013 #4

This event was pointed out to my RW friends when Romney was running for president Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #5

I got a lot of flack when I pointed this event out to the reichwingnutjobs here. niyad Sep 2013 #6

Actually I did not get a good response either but it gave Romney a knock. Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #8

I occasionally encounter a woman who still wears an rmoney/ryan button on her jacket. she lives niyad Sep 2013 #9

Would you think she might be a part of the 47%? Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #12

. . . niyad Sep 2013 #15

This is certainly well worth discussing, less anybody accidentally trust any of those hated Mormons el_bryanto Sep 2013 #19

Every faith has to confront the ugliness of its past. Lutherans have to deal geek tragedy Sep 2013 #21

Yep - and this is the perfect place to do it. el_bryanto Sep 2013 #23

I never miss an opportunity to bash Martin Luther, as you can read. geek tragedy Sep 2013 #24

Why not? I mean the people who committed the Mountain Meadows Massacre had a set of beliefs el_bryanto Sep 2013 #25

Nationalism, tribalism, ethnocentrism, and religious fanaticism are hardly geek tragedy Sep 2013 #26

Yes, I am descended from Baptists who twisted their religion csziggy Sep 2013 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Sep 2013 #31

how sad CountAllVotes Sep 2013 #27

actually, it is well worth discussing, for many reasons. you will notice that this thread was about niyad Sep 2013 #32

What aspects of it are well worth discussing and applicable in our modern era? nt el_bryanto Sep 2013 #34

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Well if that's the point - that I should abandon Mormonism - and that's why this issue needs to be el_bryanto Sep 2013 #37

Brigham Young was the Yasser Arafat of American history. nt geek tragedy Sep 2013 #20

i thought there was a good account of this in "Under the Banner of Heaven" Scout Sep 2013 #22

thank you. couldn't think of the name of the book. niyad Sep 2013 #33

. . . niyad Sep 2013 #35