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Uncle Joe

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22. They're intricately tied together, if the U.S. hadn't been building a surveillance state
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 07:49 PM
Sep 2013

against its' own citizens, Snowden likely wouldn't have spilled the beans in regards to Brazil.

The same dynamic as occurred in the Soviet Union, their Big Brother policies motivated their dissidentsl to seek asylum or speak out against their government as well.

Ben Franklin had it right



http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin

The Game of Chess is not merely an idle amusement; several very valuable qualities of the mind, useful in the course of human life, are to be acquired and strengthened by it, so as to become habits ready on all occasions; for life is a kind of Chess, in which we have often points to gain, and competitors or adversaries to contend with, and in which there is a vast variety of good and ill events, that are, in some degree, the effect of prudence, or the want of it. By playing at Chess then, we may learn: 1st, Foresight, which looks a little into futurity, and considers the consequences that may attend an action ... 2nd, Circumspection, which surveys the whole Chess-board, or scene of action: — the relation of the several Pieces, and their situations; ... 3rd, Caution, not to make our moves too hastily...

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I'm sorry, but the US should not apologize for spying on foreign countries Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #1
Yep. What are allies for? I'm sure we welcome all spying on us. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2013 #2
The concept of "allies" is misunderstood by many Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #3
I notice that So. America is getting a bit touchy of late dixiegrrrrl Sep 2013 #4
And not a single fuck was given...nt SidDithers Sep 2013 #5
Right... We're The Biggest Bully On The Block... Supported By Millions Of Other Homegrown Bullies... WillyT Sep 2013 #8
Country have been spying on one another for centuries and it will continue Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #9
Yeah... And It's Gotten Really Old... Are They Protecting Our Lives ??? WillyT Sep 2013 #10
Espionage will never end. Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #11
Maybe... But It Should DEFINITELY Be Reigned In... And Stringently Overseen... WillyT Sep 2013 #12
How do you oversee and regulate espionage between countries? Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #13
You Make Them Get A REAL Warrant, From A Regular Judge... WillyT Sep 2013 #15
I'm not referring to domestic intelligence gathering Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #16
And Yet... They Are Spying Domestically... Why Do You Suppose That Is ??? WillyT Sep 2013 #17
Again...I'm referring to the subject of the OP which is Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #18
They're intricately tied together, if the U.S. hadn't been building a surveillance state Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #22
They spied on her personally G_j Sep 2013 #6
More Here: WillyT Sep 2013 #7
Brazil needs to get over themselves BluegrassDem Sep 2013 #14
Nice job, Snowden! gulliver Sep 2013 #19
Of course, if the NSA hadn't spied on Brazil she would be coming. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2013 #20
It's just so much nonsense. gulliver Sep 2013 #21
ain't no disinfectant G_j Sep 2013 #23
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