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sibelian

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3. I think there's a genuine justification for the paranoia.

Wed Sep 18, 2013, 03:37 AM

Sep 2013

i.e. - lots of people have guns.

Unfortunately the widely perceived solution to the problem - lots of guns - contributes to the problem as well as "solving" it. And it's a little difficult to see how it "solves" it.

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I don't have to carry a gun. I live in the UK. [View all] sibelian Sep 2013 OP

paranoia is rampant in the "home of the brave" Skittles Sep 2013 #1

I think there's a genuine justification for the paranoia. sibelian Sep 2013 #3

but that is exactly what the NRA wants Skittles Sep 2013 #5

I don't know much about them sibelian Sep 2013 #6

Check for yourself and see what you think. BlueMTexpat Sep 2013 #21

Not really. Crime rates in the US have fallen precipitously NickB79 Sep 2013 #23

It's not just that others have guns. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #44

What's more, your police don't have guns either. Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #2

No, although some of them want them. sibelian Sep 2013 #4

It's not an unfair comparison. I do not give as much credit to the size of a nation as others do. Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #7

'K. sibelian Sep 2013 #9

Tut, tut. Don't give away the scaling excuse. immoderate Sep 2013 #8

The last 2 were exactly a year ago today, in Manchester muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #42

Very sad. sibelian Sep 2013 #57

We have ARU's (Armed Response Units) on regular patrol in most places now PorridgeGun Sep 2013 #11

I don't have to carry a gun. I live in Vermont. I don't have to lock my house cali Sep 2013 #10

Then it's a little difficult to blame guns. sibelian Sep 2013 #12

Vermont is a rural place. just about the whole state cali Sep 2013 #15

How does that affect things? sibelian Sep 2013 #19

Vermont is a low violent crime state across the board cali Sep 2013 #35

That does somewhat spoil the story that guns are bad. sibelian Sep 2013 #38

Basically, there is no solid statistical correlation... Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #46

Sounds about the same as the neighbourhood my family moved to PorridgeGun Sep 2013 #13

I'm a little hesitant to ask... but... sibelian Sep 2013 #18

Moving to Calfiornia ;-) PorridgeGun Sep 2013 #20

Well, believe it or not, Le Taz Hot Sep 2013 #14

I can't find any sensible statistics. sibelian Sep 2013 #17

The gun humpers fight even sharing that data. morningfog Sep 2013 #24

HUH??? sibelian Sep 2013 #31

Best estimates are that about 30% of Americans own a gun, about half of them own Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #39

Realize also most gun owners nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #50

Yes, that must of course be the case sibelian Sep 2013 #59

Not a clue. Le Taz Hot Sep 2013 #37

There are estimated to be a little over 50 million gun owners in the US Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #45

I don't own a gun etherealtruth Sep 2013 #16

I have touched a real gun several times and ... ananda Sep 2013 #29

Good at Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #34

Exactly etherealtruth Sep 2013 #49

But Then People In The UK Just Kill Each Other With Knives Bigredhunk Sep 2013 #22

Yes, I had a long one of those arguments on this very site once. sibelian Sep 2013 #25

They don't like outside perspective, because that makes them look like the troglodytes tht they are. Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #27

Ah, are you Canadian? sibelian Sep 2013 #30

Even worse ;) Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #32

Thank you, and props to Switzerland. sibelian Sep 2013 #33

It's wonderful, quite frankly. Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #36

I;m amazed that there any problems in Switzerland at all. sibelian Sep 2013 #40

Compare murder rates, get back to me! WTF! nt Logical Sep 2013 #43

Violent crime in America is geographically concentrated hack89 Sep 2013 #26

Same here. LeftishBrit Sep 2013 #28

It was a self fulfilling prophesy here in the US with the help of the NRA and the media. liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #41

I live in the US and I don't worry either. Courtesy Flush Sep 2013 #47

Guy Ritchie and Jason Statham have shown me IronLionZion Sep 2013 #48

We arrest them and put them in prison and try to make them into nicer people. sibelian Sep 2013 #58

I live in Oregon, don't have a gun, don't ever think about those who do and our Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #51

From bombs, not guns. Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2013 #56

Kick Squinch Sep 2013 #52

I don't have to carry a gun, either; I'm not afraid Scootaloo Sep 2013 #53

While you don't have to worry about gun violence, it does appear that your nation has ... spin Sep 2013 #54

Me, neither. I don't live in fear. Iggo Sep 2013 #55