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In reply to the discussion: The defenders on the TPP: "You don't know that" and "It's just speculation". Bullfuckingshit. [View all]JohnyCanuck
(9,922 posts)12. The planned TPP is more evidence the corporations call the shots in our society....
and our political representatives, by and large, seem to know and accept that their role is to enlarge and protect the supposed rights, well being and profits of corporate "persons" (i.e. mega-corporations), even if it is to the detriment of mere flesh and blood, human persons.
TPP negotiations: What is our government hiding behind closed doors?
By
Mark Taliano | September 3, 2013
The Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) is yet another corporate empowering deal that is being negotiated behind firmly closed doors, in various countries throughout the world.
Not only is public input not welcome, but even the pretence of public participation has been lifted. Despite the lack of transparency, some documents have been leaked, and the "omissions" revealed speak loudly to the conspiratorial nature of the "partnership."
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Equally significant is that 600 industry lobbyists and "advisors," as well as unelected trade representatives, are at the table, while representatives from the public at large and businesses other than huge monopolies, are conspicuously absent.
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The list of corporate polities that benefit from these exclusive negotiating partnerships (to the detriment of the public) is long, but among the most important of the negative impacts is the toll exacted on democracy, and on the ability of the government to protect its people. Since corporate empowerment deals give corporations rights that supercede existing laws and regulations, train safety, plane safety, food safety, water safety, the environment-- the safety of the population as a whole -- is further imperilled. Furthermore, the power imbalance that is created, with the metaphorical 1% garnering disproportionate income and power over the 99%, means that the corporate governance model resembles a plutocracy more than it resembles a democracy.
http://rabble.ca/news/2013/09/tpp-negotiations-what-our-government-hiding-behind-closed-doors
By
Mark Taliano | September 3, 2013
The Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) is yet another corporate empowering deal that is being negotiated behind firmly closed doors, in various countries throughout the world.
Not only is public input not welcome, but even the pretence of public participation has been lifted. Despite the lack of transparency, some documents have been leaked, and the "omissions" revealed speak loudly to the conspiratorial nature of the "partnership."
snip
Equally significant is that 600 industry lobbyists and "advisors," as well as unelected trade representatives, are at the table, while representatives from the public at large and businesses other than huge monopolies, are conspicuously absent.
snip
The list of corporate polities that benefit from these exclusive negotiating partnerships (to the detriment of the public) is long, but among the most important of the negative impacts is the toll exacted on democracy, and on the ability of the government to protect its people. Since corporate empowerment deals give corporations rights that supercede existing laws and regulations, train safety, plane safety, food safety, water safety, the environment-- the safety of the population as a whole -- is further imperilled. Furthermore, the power imbalance that is created, with the metaphorical 1% garnering disproportionate income and power over the 99%, means that the corporate governance model resembles a plutocracy more than it resembles a democracy.
http://rabble.ca/news/2013/09/tpp-negotiations-what-our-government-hiding-behind-closed-doors
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The defenders on the TPP: "You don't know that" and "It's just speculation". Bullfuckingshit. [View all]
cali
Sep 2013
OP
I noticed that too. Here is a leaked draft of the TPP sister, the transatlantic version
BelgianMadCow
Sep 2013
#1
Yep. but I'm going to call the Zombie Apologists out on their crap every fucking time
cali
Sep 2013
#4
Zombie apologists. I like it! It drives me crazy around here, the way RW shit gets passed and we
Nay
Sep 2013
#33
It's all speculation until we figure Congress or Republicans or someone forced him into it.
merrily
Sep 2013
#14
Did the Framers contemplate Senate confirmation as a rubber stamp, after the fact?
merrily
Sep 2013
#15
The planned TPP is more evidence the corporations call the shots in our society....
JohnyCanuck
Sep 2013
#12
Perhaps some are that unintelligent and easily led, but I assure you I could mimic them and get work
Dragonfli
Sep 2013
#72
Just as I suspected. Some Obama supporters are satire impaired. It's something that cannot be cured.
AnotherMcIntosh
Sep 2013
#179
It was implied that if that person made that into an OP, it would get recs presumably from
Number23
Sep 2013
#182
I just tried but found I am forbidden to post in GD due to my answer to a nuisance poster
Dragonfli
Sep 2013
#173
I think that some try to make their lives easier by choosing to believe some things with blind faith
rhett o rick
Sep 2013
#119
I think they can discern. They use comparison of opposition to something terrible
rhett o rick
Sep 2013
#127
Human behavior doesn't change that much over the span of only a few decades.[n/t]
Maedhros
Sep 2013
#163
"1%" is, of course, a shorthand expression for the elite rich and the super-rich.
AnotherMcIntosh
Sep 2013
#54
And none of the trade agreements since NAFTA have had provision on labor rights and the environment.
pampango
Sep 2013
#44
The burden of proof is on Obama to reveal proposals & his position on same NOW!
Divernan
Sep 2013
#52
I think it is equally plausible that Obama is keeping provisions that House republicans will hate
pampango
Sep 2013
#56
once something is law it's hard to change. price gouge drug prices have to be stopped
Sunlei
Sep 2013
#45
At least TPP supporters are easy to spot. Anyone with a Wall St portfolio.
raouldukelives
Sep 2013
#47
Not everybody with a stock portfolio is in favor of the damned shitty trade deal.
Chan790
Sep 2013
#64
They may not be, but every dollar in the markets is a vote of confidence for more of the same.
raouldukelives
Sep 2013
#81
Well, I seriously beg to differ that RE specualtion is worse than Halliburton.
raouldukelives
Sep 2013
#172
They have no argument. Ridicule and the rofl emoticon is all they have. They must
rhett o rick
Sep 2013
#128
but nobody has be nominated..... Sure you can criticize people you dont want to nominated
Cryptoad
Sep 2013
#146
Actually it's because you are a libertarian isolationist Rand Paul worshiper -
Dragonfli
Sep 2013
#103
If only. I think it's a bad attempt to start a fight. I dont have anyone on my ignore list but
rhett o rick
Sep 2013
#116
Just because someone points a gun at your head doesnt mean they will shoot. Be patient and
rhett o rick
Sep 2013
#80
It's hard because "blind faith" is the easy way out. No thinking required. nm
rhett o rick
Sep 2013
#100
and if the "hair-on-fire" crew every gets something blocked by massive, embarrassing outcry
MisterP
Sep 2013
#89
Leo Gerard was just talking about this on the Ed show - Unions say "NO" to TPP!
NRaleighLiberal
Sep 2013
#111