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Uncle Joe

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189. D.U. has tens of thousands of members and its' growing everyday.

Wed Sep 18, 2013, 11:26 AM

Sep 2013

The vast majority are Democrats from one end of the political spectrum to the other.

If you truly believe in the merits of your argument, you won't be afraid of contention and open debate.

Again as I posted above the keyword was "principles" of the First Amendment.

The Founders weren't afraid of open debate in regards to government's power and they damn sure had their own contentious issues of the time, the only people; who who didn't believe in the merits of their own argument and lost faith in debate were the slave owners so they left.

The same holds true for the people of D.U. if you want to change the world, you must have the courage and tenacity to confront and debate those who don't believe as you, remaining in a safe echo chamber serves little purpose.

The corporate media even uses the propaganda of people on the Internet gravitating only to sites and stories which they already agree with, that's actually the corporate media model.

No doubt freepers, would be trolls or just lurkers come to this site hoping to confirm or reinforce their pre-conceptions and no doubt some of them are converted despite their original intent.

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Would you be in favor of DU banning all positive posting about guns? [View all] coldmountain Sep 2013 OP

As a firearms owner, yes. Scuba Sep 2013 #1

As a non firearms owner, No. PragmaticLiberal Sep 2013 #145

No from me also. nt Mojorabbit Sep 2013 #169

No, but I would be in favor of banning trolls. nt Tanuki Sep 2013 #2

I agree. GentryDixon Sep 2013 #154

No. n/t tammywammy Sep 2013 #3

What? Lurker Deluxe Sep 2013 #4

Good quesiton! n/t peace13 Sep 2013 #8

Phony framing, indeed. Orsino Sep 2013 #75

Why stop there - frankly I am tired of seeing any posts by anybody who disagrees with me. el_bryanto Sep 2013 #5

You are magnificent Yo_Mama Sep 2013 #16

Exactly ny treestar Sep 2013 #120

very well stated MrNJ Sep 2013 #152

Why would you think there was sarcasm? Bay Boy Sep 2013 #153

I very rarely put the sarcasm smiley - if you have to explain the joke you are better off not making el_bryanto Sep 2013 #155

UGH. sibelian Sep 2013 #181

No, f**king way. DetlefK Sep 2013 #6

Mom ...is that you? peace13 Sep 2013 #7

NO, I would NOT MrMickeysMom Sep 2013 #9

Yes, but the sport of matching sockpuppets to trolls would be over. nt onehandle Sep 2013 #10

Well, except for all the other "issue trolls". Scuba Sep 2013 #34

You can do on your own if you want maddezmom Sep 2013 #11

suits me fine. can't happen soon enough to suit me. Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2013 #12

Some DUers love to hate guns. rrneck Sep 2013 #13

Others love to hate free speech, when they don't agree with the message. n/t hughee99 Sep 2013 #81

There seems to be quite a few who let their bigotry against oneshooter Sep 2013 #163

Huh? Yo_Mama Sep 2013 #14

As a gun owner...yep very much so. I havent seen one pro-gun post that Katashi_itto Sep 2013 #15

Have you ever seen a anti-2nd amendment post former9thward Sep 2013 #48

Reading Gun magazines all day I doubt you would. Katashi_itto Sep 2013 #123

not a chance. GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #17

Yes nevergiveup Sep 2013 #18

Yes countingbluecars Sep 2013 #19

No...of course not.. Upton Sep 2013 #20

I'm sure the purists wouldn't care either way. n/t Daniel537 Sep 2013 #45

No, but I'd like to see them out of LBN and GD Gormy Cuss Sep 2013 #21

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author cyberswede Sep 2013 #25

I would be happy to see no gun threads in GD. nt hack89 Sep 2013 #23

Agreed. We have TWO (2) groups AND one forum (GD) for gun posts... Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #108

I bet you would. If only people would stop shooting each other. Robb Sep 2013 #110

Perhaps we can make it illegal. hack89 Sep 2013 #113

We set the community standards. TacoD Sep 2013 #24

yes gopiscrap Sep 2013 #26

No 1-Old-Man Sep 2013 #27

I hate guns, but Brainstormy Sep 2013 #28

Maybe we should have more NRA/ALEC trolling. DanTex Sep 2013 #29

This site is the single largest destination for "conservative" Democrats...We advocate for drone Romulox Sep 2013 #30

All positive Free Trade posts should have a separate forum leftstreet Sep 2013 #36

because anyone that disagrees with you...MUST be a conservative Democrat who supports VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #54

Those are LITERAL examples, taken from actual posts and posters. nt Romulox Sep 2013 #56

Oh of course....sure....yeah..."Literally". VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #57

Lame. nt Romulox Sep 2013 #59

Yes...Lame is the exact word I was looking for! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #60

Not only that treestar Sep 2013 #121

Word salad, much? nt Romulox Sep 2013 #130

I thought the term was conservative "Democrats", not "conservative" Democrats. n/t backscatter712 Sep 2013 #69

Excellent point. nt Romulox Sep 2013 #131

No. jwirr Sep 2013 #31

Only if DU'er Robb promises 50% of his OP will be about cool things like Fusion power snooper2 Sep 2013 #32

No, all the anti-gun trolls would die of starvation. aikoaiko Sep 2013 #33

I'm not sure what a "positive posting about guns" is tularetom Sep 2013 #35

What would nanny state authoritarians do then? closeupready Sep 2013 #37

Happy Constitution Day everybody. pintobean Sep 2013 #38

Seriousy. beevul Sep 2013 #139

Happy birthday, beevul pintobean Sep 2013 #140

Thanks! beevul Sep 2013 #148

That doesn't work. pintobean Sep 2013 #150

ROFL. beevul Sep 2013 #151

Absolutely not badtoworse Sep 2013 #39

Absolutely not. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #40

Remember -- anyone who says the 2A protects the rest of their rights is just being paranoid Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #92

Better to have gun nut shitheads out in the open: lets me know who NOT to take seriously alcibiades_mystery Sep 2013 #41

right marions ghost Sep 2013 #43

No. ananda Sep 2013 #42

No! DU should not become an echo chamber. ColesCountyDem Sep 2013 #44

Ban the RW trolls who use deceitful NRA talking points. baldguy Sep 2013 #46

Absolutely not. Daniel537 Sep 2013 #47

^^^^^^^ stklurker Sep 2013 #49

Yes. The 2nd Amendment is a triumph of 18th Century liberalism. closeupready Sep 2013 #55

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #50

There is nothing positive about guns. nt tridim Sep 2013 #51

Stewie would disagree with you, and so would I. NM_Birder Sep 2013 #74

I'm not my avatar. Name one postive. nt tridim Sep 2013 #76

Responsibility. NM_Birder Sep 2013 #95

IMO hunting is not a positive, unless you're starving. tridim Sep 2013 #162

Good try, A for effort. NM_Birder Sep 2013 #166

no response,.....not surprised. take care. NM_Birder Sep 2013 #142

They give me, a 67 yr old with a disability the ability to defend myself... GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #171

I dislike guns as much as most people here but redstatebluegirl Sep 2013 #52

I don't know. What constitutes a positive posting about guns? Aristus Sep 2013 #53

"A-M-E-N" etherealtruth Sep 2013 #175

Absolutely! ann--- Sep 2013 #58

Sure about that? DragonBorn Sep 2013 #73

As a not firearms owner, YES madokie Sep 2013 #61

Back to the Gungeon where they belong. Iggo Sep 2013 #62

Agreed. Paladin Sep 2013 #67

And I agree with you! Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #111

Glad to hear it. (nt) Paladin Sep 2013 #124

Gun posts in GD have proven to be a horrible idea. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #126

An idea that's run its course, at the very least. Iggo Sep 2013 #128

No, but your list is exclusionary. nolabear Sep 2013 #63

yes, if by that you mean "advocating against gun control". Warren Stupidity Sep 2013 #64

No but I'm in favor of people not responding to those posts. cbdo2007 Sep 2013 #65

Somebody would. reflection Sep 2013 #66

The gungeon's always been a petri-dish for DU trolls. I say fumigate the place. n/t backscatter712 Sep 2013 #68

silliness looking for some action. n/t Whisp Sep 2013 #70

No wildeyed Sep 2013 #71

Just Gungeon them. Orsino Sep 2013 #72

This authoritarian desire to censor speech is scary tritsofme Sep 2013 #77

Well stated, tritsofme. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #137

No, we can not discuss something without both sides represented Half-Century Man Sep 2013 #78

Which party favors sarisataka Sep 2013 #79

There's a Group for that already krispos42 Sep 2013 #80

Bazinga! aikoaiko Sep 2013 #103

Yes? n/t Bazinga Sep 2013 #184

LOL aikoaiko Sep 2013 #187

Absolutely not. MicaelS Sep 2013 #82

Nnnnnnope. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2013 #83

No. I can choose not to read or engage if I don't want to. Shrike47 Sep 2013 #84

Makes as much sense as banning all positive posts about racism. Loudly Sep 2013 #85

No. dipsydoodle Sep 2013 #86

Ignore is your friend nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #87

Not a very progressive idea. ileus Sep 2013 #88

On a "gut" level, yes... On a "rational" level, no. And, yes, I do let rationality guide me. hlthe2b Sep 2013 #89

No n/t geomon666 Sep 2013 #90

No, I don't like senseless censorship..... Uben Sep 2013 #91

As was so well put pipi_k Sep 2013 #93

No cordelia Sep 2013 #94

No way! Enthusiast Sep 2013 #96

NO (nt) bigwillq Sep 2013 #97

No. The push for censorship has to be stopped LittleBlue Sep 2013 #98

No. First, it's not possible. Second, it will annoy rural Democrats. Warpy Sep 2013 #99

Rural Democrats take an electoral ass kicking on this subject warrant46 Sep 2013 #168

no. nt Zorra Sep 2013 #100

Why not just make a list of accepted beliefs upaloopa Sep 2013 #101

Is this a positive post about guns or a negative post... hunter Sep 2013 #102

It is both. Iggo Sep 2013 #105

You would have a massive argument about what constitued a positive post Kelvin Mace Sep 2013 #104

as a gun owner yes I would be in favor warrior1 Sep 2013 #106

I don't think so. fathom5 Sep 2013 #107

Welcome to DU gopiscrap Sep 2013 #115

Thank you. fathom5 Sep 2013 #117

No. (n/t) spin Sep 2013 #109

Only if I loved bias and bigotry.what are we on guns, the rw version of freepers on islam? The Straight Story Sep 2013 #112

I think we should stick to banning right-wing assholes. Robb Sep 2013 #114

Best answer etherealtruth Sep 2013 #176

Impossible treestar Sep 2013 #116

Gun-control elitism relies on prohibition of more than guns. nt Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #118

No, but I think after the current story dies down... Chan790 Sep 2013 #119

No. No need to be so extreme. Brigid Sep 2013 #122

As one banned from Gungeon, I think it's good to see how they really feel about guns vs. humanity/ Hoyt Sep 2013 #125

Yep. And I'd never have known if they hadn't come spilling out after Newtown. Iggo Sep 2013 #129

When they come for your guns, it's time to use them. Eddie Haskell Sep 2013 #127

Oh, my, yes!!!! That's like talking about what's good about rape. valerief Sep 2013 #132

No. Kaleva Sep 2013 #133

I'd settle for banning positive postings about guns from GD. stevenleser Sep 2013 #134

No I have too much respect for the principles of the 1st Amendment Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #135

THE ATTENTION THIS POST HAS GOTTEN IS THE POINT I'M MAKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! coldmountain Sep 2013 #136

1. That's why I said the "principles" of the First Amendment. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #138

Unfortunately,the rightwingAstroturf leads to misunderstandings about what progressives are thinking coldmountain Sep 2013 #141

I have faith in the people of D.U. to work out the issue Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #143

Well stated. Thanks for this thread. (nt) Paladin Sep 2013 #144

So we should open the forum up to freepers and other RWNJ's then? Why bother to have DU stevenleser Sep 2013 #186

D.U. has tens of thousands of members and its' growing everyday. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #189

You didn't answer any of my questions, because you can't. Your position is untenable. nt stevenleser Sep 2013 #190

If you actually read my post, you would know I most clearly stated that I wasn't afraid of debate Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #191

That is a nonsensical response. It has nothing to do with fear. It has to do with being drowned out. stevenleser Sep 2013 #192

General Discussion is a "general discussion board" about the issues of the day, but I haven't noticed Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #194

You haven't noticed it because the GD hosts would be all over it and would lock them. stevenleser Sep 2013 #195

You're posing a hypothetical that hasn't happened when it does get back to me. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #197

It's not a hypothetical. It happens semi-regularly. stevenleser Sep 2013 #199

Again as I posted those aren't critical issues of the day, you're comparing fluff to substance Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #200

You are now moving the goal posts, and you know you are. You werent talking about critical issues of stevenleser Sep 2013 #201

From my very first post to which you responded, I was speaking of substance and the importance of Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #205

No. Not a gun fan, but I feel this issue is far less important than others we have on our plate, grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #146

Honestly? At this point I would be in favor of banning any and all discussion about guns whatsoever quinnox Sep 2013 #147

No. HappyMe Sep 2013 #149

What pintobean said back in #38 derby378 Sep 2013 #156

No more than I would favor all positive postings about Dungeons and Dragons or Republicans. Agnosticsherbet Sep 2013 #157

absolutely not Skittles Sep 2013 #158

as a gunowner MFM008 Sep 2013 #159

yes, i would. nt La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2013 #160

nope.... Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #161

Since I believe in the First Amendment, I say bbinacan Sep 2013 #164

All talk about guns should be limited in that dark, cold basement known as the gungeon. Vashta Nerada Sep 2013 #165

My wife is alive because she was armed when she needed to be. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #174

The whole country is a lottery of crime statistics coldmountain Sep 2013 #177

No Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #167

No HereSince1628 Sep 2013 #170

I would etherealtruth Sep 2013 #172

no - I think they are full of shit- but so are a lot of other postings Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #173

fuck yes, make it go away. bettyellen Sep 2013 #178

Put me down as a "Hell Yes" please. Laffy Kat Sep 2013 #179

As a firearm owner, no Gothmog Sep 2013 #180

Add gun control as a stance DU supports in TOS? PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #182

No. nt LWolf Sep 2013 #183

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BainsBane Sep 2013 #185

I'd be happy if you all went back to your respective gungeons. n/t Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #188

So. Fucking. THIS. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #196

No. If I want lockstep echo chamber conformity I would be Republican. nt Demo_Chris Sep 2013 #193

Why? Afraid of free speech? PlanetaryOrbit Sep 2013 #198

no. Niceguy1 Sep 2013 #202

I don't own a gun or want to own a gun. But I oppose shutting down a particular point of bluestate10 Sep 2013 #203

"DU banning all positive posting about guns " donco Sep 2013 #204

No. AngryOldDem Sep 2013 #206