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Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
72. Perhaps some are that unintelligent and easily led, but I assure you I could mimic them and get work
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 10:57 AM
Sep 2013

from Cass Sunstein (as soon as an address is available to send a resume).

As an example, an over the top mimic of the type of logic I see employed all the time, in this case my propaganda reply regarding the fact that Sanders pointed out that many of the Presidents right wing preferred appointments and policies have caused much of the base to be unhappy with him and the rightward direction of the party under his leadership:

What these firebaggers like Sanders need to understand is these fake "Democrats" are not his base,

they are really mostly (nearly all in fact) libertarians registered as Democrats that only voted for him to advance a master plan the goal of which is to "bring him down" because ODS.

Their end game after bringing down the best President of all time (past and future) is to finally herald a new administration with a Rand as president (whom they love almost as much as Putin).

They are clever and embedded (many of them operating sleeper cells of so called "Democrats" for 30 or even up to 60 years).

Real Democrats like Obama, Baucus, anyone named Nelson, Rahm Emanuel, Lieberman (before the firebaggers forced him to run as a party of one) and Ed Rendell are under constant attack by racist libertarians that claim to vote for Democrats as a cover and who must be destroyed.

Their ODS inspired plot also includes discrediting great thinkers - true progressive thinkers like Milton Friedman and collaborative progressive thinkers like Will Marshall, Al From and others who were so pragmatic that they got an incredibly smart billionaire set of brothers named Koch to help fund their DLC. If billionaires as brilliant as they backed their progressive plans, all I can say is they were top notch geniuses that had been working since the eighties to bring us a Democratic utopia of REAL liberal policies and we MUST carry their torch onward into the future.

The conspiracy runs so deep, that the only way to be sure of backing true Democrats is to check to make sure they are connected to the third way think tank, the progressive policy institute, are former DLC alumni, or in the case of posters on this site - Boggers in good standing with the group.

We true Democrats must have Obama's back no matter what he says or does!

We are NOT frustrated by revelations about the Obama administration's secret government spying programs or the president's support for military action in Syria and we support visionaries such as Summers and that hero Brennan just as we hope to do more for banks and for free trade. We promote kill lists and indefinite detention without rights because all these things are the true Democratic agenda and are all attempts to further the interests of the common working man and his right to be allowed to lose rights and job security to enable them to patriotically provide the US with the ability to be competitive on the global labor market and to also allow for a nation secure from the many domestic threats of the disgruntled far left and libertarian terrorists before they become organized. We want these things for our lessers because we love them and have their backs and know what's best for them.

If what is best for them is to reduce their earned benefits like SS and Medicare when they are whinny old farts that can't earn money for their betters anymore, we will support such cuts BECAUSE we love them and want to help them find ways not to be the useless takers that they are. The same for the poor that claim that cutting programs like food stamps will hurt them, in the reality based world if they are not hungry and useful to their betters then we have failed to help them find the bliss in working three min wage jobs to help an economy that is wisely designed to funnel cash to the only people with the ability to trickle success down upon them. I mean, how can we help them if we don't help the rich that may decide to help them at some point eventually?

In conclusion, 99.9% of true Democrats support President Obama on everything all the time and those that do not provide such complete and trusting blind support are not really Democrats or "the base", but rather ODS racist libertarians with an agenda going back to the days of that 'bagger FDR and his hatred of those financially secure enough to shower their wealth down upon us with their unfettered ingenuity. We have already paid a great price for the suffocating regulations that held back the prosperity of the nation until Rubin and Summers under the very liberal Bill Clinton removed the regulatory handcuffs that impedede the creation of true and lasting prosperity that only unfettered capitalism can provide.

Obama's true base loves him, support his every decision 100% and always will, do not believe the lies of the firebagging Putin lovers that not only never really loved him but actually hate him and always will because ODS and their worship of Randian libertarianism.

We need to stick together and go on the attack against what so many falsely see as his Democratic base, our numbers are small, but we are right, have the best funding, and will win in the end bringing to fruition our Progressive Koch inspired Democratic agenda that was so well articulated by our founding DLC heroes. We pragmatic few, ARE THE ONLY true base!

Lets rally! Lets Win!
Are you with me!!!!?


I threw in a bit of exaggerated extrapolations of what their arguments truly defend or propose, I just did it to keep my sense of humor in the face of constant nonsensical arguments, but would have to remove very little to make the post a very realistic representation of arguments seen every single day her.

I hope you get my point Cali, even if I couldn't resist being the smart ass that I am.

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I noticed that too. Here is a leaked draft of the TPP sister, the transatlantic version BelgianMadCow Sep 2013 #1
You know the drill, cali - "it's all speculation" until Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #2
It's speculation until it's "old news." morningfog Sep 2013 #3
Or speculation until its "compromise"... grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #5
or it's speculation until "we can fix it later." magical thyme Sep 2013 #132
At that point, discussing it would be nothing but "shit stirring," right? merrily Sep 2013 #18
Yep. but I'm going to call the Zombie Apologists out on their crap every fucking time cali Sep 2013 #4
My recs shall be with you! Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #6
hey, thanks! cali Sep 2013 #7
May the recs be with you! Mine always is. Thanks for all you do! Divernan Sep 2013 #13
Thank you, Divernan. For everything. cali Sep 2013 #20
Zombie apologists. I like it! It drives me crazy around here, the way RW shit gets passed and we Nay Sep 2013 #33
The Zombie Apologists - glad to finally have a name for them, Raksha Sep 2013 #67
Maybe we should start a fund to deprogram these poor afflicted folks cali Sep 2013 #74
Good idea - it isn't hard to identify them. Raksha Sep 2013 #77
Hear, hear. nt woo me with science Sep 2013 #170
It's all speculation until we figure Congress or Republicans or someone forced him into it. merrily Sep 2013 #14
Pass it now, fix it later. obxhead Sep 2013 #36
+1 proverbialwisdom Sep 2013 #38
Thanks - I left that one off my list of zombie lines. Raksha Sep 2013 #68
The Toilet Paper Pact - wiping their asses with the American dream. grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #143
kick! - n/t Locrian Sep 2013 #8
k&r . . .n/t annabanana Sep 2013 #9
If not enough is known . . . another_liberal Sep 2013 #10
Did the Framers contemplate Senate confirmation as a rubber stamp, after the fact? merrily Sep 2013 #15
Agreed. another_liberal Sep 2013 #17
Foresight or hindsight? merrily Sep 2013 #21
I came across this, TheJames Sep 2013 #161
When it finally collapses and leaves corporations destitute..... Rain Mcloud Sep 2013 #11
You think the TPP will leave corporations destitute? merrily Sep 2013 #16
Pity the poor Corporations! BuelahWitch Sep 2013 #90
The planned TPP is more evidence the corporations call the shots in our society.... JohnyCanuck Sep 2013 #12
Yep. Here's a look at Obama's choice: Chief Ag Negotiator for the USTR. Sickening cali Sep 2013 #19
that IS quite sickening G_j Sep 2013 #39
Isn't it though? And this was someone the President CHOSE cali Sep 2013 #43
Aw, Cali. bvar22 Sep 2013 #97
"Hater" tblue Sep 2013 #125
use to think they were just feigning ignorance. come to realize it is willful. KG Sep 2013 #22
by and large, I think it is willful cali Sep 2013 #23
That's true, I think. Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #37
epic KG Sep 2013 #41
You have a link for that? pscot Sep 2013 #106
Perhaps some are that unintelligent and easily led, but I assure you I could mimic them and get work Dragonfli Sep 2013 #72
OIW - Because Obama! KG Sep 2013 #88
Hilarious!! beerandjesus Sep 2013 #92
You should post that as a stand alone OP without a "sarcasm" tag! bvar22 Sep 2013 #108
yes. Vanje Sep 2013 #136
Done, let's see if it gets even one rec Dragonfli Sep 2013 #174
11 at this time. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #177
21 now. And from some really STRONG Obama supporters too! Number23 Sep 2013 #178
Just as I suspected. Some Obama supporters are satire impaired. It's something that cannot be cured. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #179
It was implied that if that person made that into an OP, it would get recs presumably from Number23 Sep 2013 #182
Rec AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #171
Done Dragonfli Sep 2013 #175
I just tried but found I am forbidden to post in GD due to my answer to a nuisance poster Dragonfli Sep 2013 #173
Done, finally: Dragonfli Sep 2013 #176
Well said, Dragonfli! Good Read! KoKo Sep 2013 #114
I have a serious soft spot for smar asses. cali Sep 2013 #120
Excellent post! nt adirondacker Sep 2013 #162
I think that some try to make their lives easier by choosing to believe some things with blind faith rhett o rick Sep 2013 #119
They are unable to discern principled opposition to the President Maedhros Sep 2013 #121
I think they can discern. They use comparison of opposition to something terrible rhett o rick Sep 2013 #127
The sociopaths that have been cultivated dotymed Sep 2013 #32
Secret negotiations with secret (Corporate) provisions .... unhappycamper Sep 2013 #24
Secret negotiations with secret (Corporate) provisions... bvar22 Sep 2013 #109
From "They Thought They Were Free: The Germans 1933-1945" by Milton Mayer Maedhros Sep 2013 #122
Chillingly on point! Sounds like the Zombie bible! Divernan Sep 2013 #142
Human behavior doesn't change that much over the span of only a few decades.[n/t] Maedhros Sep 2013 #163
Sounds a lot like the MuseRider Sep 2013 #129
Kicked and Recommended! nt Enthusiast Sep 2013 #25
We studied it a bit in school laundry_queen Sep 2013 #26
K & R AzDar Sep 2013 #27
K & R !!!!!!! djean111 Sep 2013 #28
K&R AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #29
AnotherMcIntosh we do. dotymed Sep 2013 #49
"1%" is, of course, a shorthand expression for the elite rich and the super-rich. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #54
I agree. dotymed Sep 2013 #169
I thought investors were suppose to take risks to reap financial rewards... KansDem Sep 2013 #30
You just hate Obama. WilliamPitt Sep 2013 #31
When you're right, you're right, and this hits it right on the head. K&R 11 Bravo Sep 2013 #34
"Nobody could have anticipated....." Roland99 Sep 2013 #35
This. blackspade Sep 2013 #40
Good thread, cali. woo me with science Sep 2013 #42
And none of the trade agreements since NAFTA have had provision on labor rights and the environment. pampango Sep 2013 #44
the problem is that even if it does have some protections cali Sep 2013 #46
If "they are", I agree with you. pampango Sep 2013 #48
The burden of proof is on Obama to reveal proposals & his position on same NOW! Divernan Sep 2013 #52
I think it is equally plausible that Obama is keeping provisions that House republicans will hate pampango Sep 2013 #56
I think a simple majority of both chambers is unconstitutional. Divernan Sep 2013 #65
That may be but it is the procedure used for all trade treaties. pampango Sep 2013 #76
The flaw in your theory Kermitt Gribble Sep 2013 #135
Yes, he's posted this same stuff elsewhere dreamnightwind Sep 2013 #164
1000%! Protections/regulations are worth shit when: Divernan Sep 2013 #50
Good Points, "Divernan"! KoKo Sep 2013 #113
You apparently enjoy a) lying and b) propaganda brentspeak Sep 2013 #147
Thank you for this post dreamnightwind Sep 2013 #165
once something is law it's hard to change. price gouge drug prices have to be stopped Sunlei Sep 2013 #45
At least TPP supporters are easy to spot. Anyone with a Wall St portfolio. raouldukelives Sep 2013 #47
Not everybody with a stock portfolio is in favor of the damned shitty trade deal. Chan790 Sep 2013 #64
They may not be, but every dollar in the markets is a vote of confidence for more of the same. raouldukelives Sep 2013 #81
There is no other place to put money short of RE speculation. Chan790 Sep 2013 #82
Well, I seriously beg to differ that RE specualtion is worse than Halliburton. raouldukelives Sep 2013 #172
And the Jury voted 0-6 to LEAVE IT. Autumn Sep 2013 #51
HAH! Take that, Zombie alerter! Divernan Sep 2013 #55
Lol. I knew "Zombie Apologist" was likely to get some people in a lather cali Sep 2013 #58
It certainly did get someone in a lather. Autumn Sep 2013 #60
Wow. They tried to get this deleted, huh? Marr Sep 2013 #62
The censorship system defeated ...need this to happen more often. L0oniX Sep 2013 #70
Hah...someone alerted and got voted down. Raksha Sep 2013 #75
They have no argument. Ridicule and the rofl emoticon is all they have. They must rhett o rick Sep 2013 #128
Excellent post cali - TPP needs to die. nt TBF Sep 2013 #53
Great post, Cali Oilwellian Sep 2013 #57
I didn't realize there were any defenders of the TPP. Raksha Sep 2013 #59
Good post cali! MuseRider Sep 2013 #61
Seems that Cryptoad Sep 2013 #63
seems like you haven't a clue as to what you are talking about, honey. cali Sep 2013 #66
LMFAO perfect. n/t L0oniX Sep 2013 #69
Sorry Cryptoad Sep 2013 #71
sorry, but it's not merely speculative cali Sep 2013 #73
But cali. It is speculative. Until it's done Autumn Sep 2013 #79
YOu can not be against something before it exist Cryptoad Sep 2013 #83
You can keep your head in the sand Crypttoad. Autumn Sep 2013 #85
I'll just wait until AFTER the Keystone Pipeline is in place.... Vanje Sep 2013 #141
Yall will be far more convincing Cryptoad Sep 2013 #148
You couldn't convince me the sky was blue if it was a fucking sunny day. Autumn Sep 2013 #153
I wish I was as smart as you,,,,,,, Cryptoad Sep 2013 #154
You might get there. Autumn Sep 2013 #155
geeez,,,,,, Cryptoad Sep 2013 #157
that's ridiculous and none too swift. cali Sep 2013 #104
Do you feel better if you personally attack other posters.? Cryptoad Sep 2013 #149
Says the person who calls others "Obama haters" in this very thread neverforget Sep 2013 #151
you dont believe there are people who hate Obama......? Cryptoad Sep 2013 #158
you accused others of doing what you have done all the while complaining neverforget Sep 2013 #159
another red herring Cryptoad Sep 2013 #168
Let me ask you this, did you support ACA before it "existed"? cui bono Sep 2013 #112
Beautiful takedown :) Celefin Sep 2013 #123
No it would be impossible.... Cryptoad Sep 2013 #145
....and you can't criticize a Fed nominee, before he's been nominated..... Vanje Sep 2013 #139
but nobody has be nominated..... Sure you can criticize people you dont want to nominated Cryptoad Sep 2013 #146
You're working very hard. Vanje Sep 2013 #152
Thank you Cryptoad Sep 2013 #156
Please help, I'm confused. beerandjesus Sep 2013 #94
Actually it's because you are a libertarian isolationist Rand Paul worshiper - Dragonfli Sep 2013 #103
Depends Vanje Sep 2013 #140
"whining Obama Haters" WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2013 #78
Are you saying the author of the linked post is an "Obama Hater"? rhett o rick Sep 2013 #86
Did I say that? Did you threaten me ? Cryptoad Sep 2013 #87
derp,,,,,, bvar22 Sep 2013 #101
could it possibly be performance art? KG Sep 2013 #107
If only. I think it's a bad attempt to start a fight. I dont have anyone on my ignore list but rhett o rick Sep 2013 #116
I love you for this, bvar22! smokey nj Sep 2013 #115
lol. damned near a perfect summation. cali Sep 2013 #118
The question was not directed at you..... Cryptoad Sep 2013 #150
Just because someone points a gun at your head doesnt mean they will shoot. Be patient and rhett o rick Sep 2013 #80
Is that a threat? Cryptoad Sep 2013 #84
it's called a metaphor. yikes. cali Sep 2013 #91
I think that's a little hard for some to make the connection. Autumn Sep 2013 #96
It's hard because "blind faith" is the easy way out. No thinking required. nm rhett o rick Sep 2013 #100
and if the "hair-on-fire" crew every gets something blocked by massive, embarrassing outcry MisterP Sep 2013 #89
How is "you don't know that" and "it's speculation" a defense? joshcryer Sep 2013 #93
When it allows one to say "Bullfuckingshit." ProSense Sep 2013 #95
lol. you seem put out. what a shame. cali Sep 2013 #98
I've already ProSense Sep 2013 #99
uh, no. you really didn't and virtually no one is buying what YOU peddle. cali Sep 2013 #102
Oh, some people are buying what "YOU peddle" ProSense Sep 2013 #105
Prosense, have you ever been forclosed upon due to joblessness? livingwagenow Sep 2013 #126
Who are you, and what do your questions have to do with my point? ProSense Sep 2013 #130
TPP is poison. Thanks for raising awareness. knr nt livingwagenow Sep 2013 #110
Leo Gerard was just talking about this on the Ed show - Unions say "NO" to TPP! NRaleighLiberal Sep 2013 #111
Recommend! KoKo Sep 2013 #117
. blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #124
K&R! Phlem Sep 2013 #131
Recommended thread, cali... MrMickeysMom Sep 2013 #133
The good news is - all the scorn and scathing put-downs by those who believe everything Obama does djean111 Sep 2013 #134
Don't tell me; tell your Congress critter. No TTP, NO fast track authority. Vincardog Sep 2013 #137
Amen. nt silvershadow Sep 2013 #138
The Toilet Paper Pact - wiping their asses with the American dream. grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #144
The CORPS... nikto Sep 2013 #160
K&R. Thanks for posting this. JDPriestly Sep 2013 #166
Well, Hell. What is he thinking? juajen Sep 2013 #167
kick woo me with science Sep 2013 #180
197 Recs. woo me with science Sep 2013 #181
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