The defenders on the TPP: "You don't know that" and "It's just speculation". Bullfuckingshit.

[cali]

102. uh, no. you really didn't and virtually no one is buying what YOU peddle.

there's been abundant information posted about the TPP over the months, pro. It is not speculation only and then you have people like this that your adored President appointed. Hardly encouraging.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_Siddiqui


and even this from the horrible WaPo:

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Alas, the United States softened its position at a public meeting of TPP negotiators last month. The new proposal simply specifies that tobacco is included in an existing exemption for policies necessary to protect human life or health, and requires governments to consult before challenging each other’s tobacco rules.

While better than the status quo, in that it might constrain governments from going to bat for domestic tobacco producers, this suggestion would leave tobacco companies free to mount legal challenges to various nations’ policies.

The office of U.S. Trade Representative Michael Froman explained the new stance reflected “consultations with Congress and with a wide range of American stakeholders” — a polite reference to pushback from farm-state legislators, farm lobbies and other interest groups that feared a tobacco exception would expand to a health-related excuse for protectionism against many other products.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/snuffing-out-a-tobacco-exemption-in-trans-pacific-partnership-trade-deal/2013/09/17/4ed26176-1bf7-11e3-8685-5021e0c41964_story.html

ODDS has you in its grip.