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aikoaiko

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141. The purpose of the planned assemblies is normalization of carrying firearms

Wed Sep 18, 2013, 05:40 PM

Sep 2013

Not intimidation of the anti-gun crowd.

Unfortunately, firearms scare some people, sometimes hysterically, and the resulting backlash is not good for the open carry movement.

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The reason these people want to carry guns in public places like Starbucks is to shut up anyone... [View all] phantom power Sep 2013 OP

True, Sir: The Motive Is Intimidation The Magistrate Sep 2013 #1

intimidation kardonb Sep 2013 #31

For these people, guns are indeed a fetish. Maedhros Sep 2013 #82

^^^Yes^^^ That kind of fetish. Hekate Sep 2013 #94

Excuse me, ya'll, but I think it is the same "fetish". juajen Sep 2013 #100

Oh, I think there most definitely is often pangaia Sep 2013 #156

You hit the nail squarely on the head, sir. kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #46

Intimidation it is, and my guess is they love every minute of it. Zimmerman is one of "those" ... Hekate Sep 2013 #79

Bingo! defacto7 Sep 2013 #109

This is so obviously.... Walk away Sep 2013 #2

See, foot and gun, same fetishes. juajen Sep 2013 #104

Indeed. Robb Sep 2013 #3

I missed that (back then). LittleGirl Sep 2013 #36

Ah, that's where "delicate flower" came from... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2013 #198

VIP - Very Important Post kentuck Sep 2013 #4

The best reason people carry guns in places as Starbucks is showing their non-sensible ownership of Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #5

Spot on. Intimidation. JoePhilly Sep 2013 #6

Yep, the gun-as-argument-winner mentality. I've seen it with my own eyes. arcane1 Sep 2013 #7

K&R! tosh Sep 2013 #8

Yup nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #9

I doubt it. I suspect for most it is a form of political speech... Demo_Chris Sep 2013 #10

That doesn't do much to endear them to me either. Skidmore Sep 2013 #21

Nor me. In either case. nt Demo_Chris Sep 2013 #22

Someone going to get coffee wearing a loaded gun is... "polical speech"... Ohio Joe Sep 2013 #37

Yep. I know some of them. -nt Bonx Sep 2013 #38

It is BlueJac Sep 2013 #48

They ain't fooling nobody. kentuck Sep 2013 #56

I disagree. The biblical tracts cannot kill you, intentionaly or accidentally. I don't think Squinch Sep 2013 #58

Bingo. Chris got it right. Shemp Howard Sep 2013 #119

Only ten percent? kentuck Sep 2013 #155

Please don't jump to conclusions. Shemp Howard Sep 2013 #173

Beware, they might point a loaded bible at your head. <:rolleyes:> nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #128

Intimidate 'em back. Learned that from my mom. hunter Sep 2013 #11

You propose threatening violence? Not sure I want you on my team. nt Demo_Chris Sep 2013 #24

They're "threatening violence." They mean to be intimidating. hunter Sep 2013 #27

Actually, they might shoot you. Most support Stand Your Ground laws for this very reason. Hoyt Sep 2013 #28

They'll probably miss. hunter Sep 2013 #34

Use non-violent intimidation Half-Century Man Sep 2013 #49

And Markley's Law appears: friendly_iconoclast Sep 2013 #71

Just shooting for a laugh. Half-Century Man Sep 2013 #164

Maybe. I choose not to roll that particular set of dice. Thor_MN Sep 2013 #65

You didn't think that through did you? GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #184

A charge of mayhem would be worth the risk. hunter Sep 2013 #186

I say TAKE THEM AWAY!!!! dickthegrouch Sep 2013 #12

Their "entire tribe?" Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #17

Until they don't /nt dickthegrouch Sep 2013 #18

Yes, and...? Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #41

Other groups don't have toys whose sole purpose is to kill. kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #51

Golly, if that's the "sole purpose," then they must be really, really bad at it. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #66

The sole purpose of an object... Vilis Veritas Sep 2013 #111

Actually it does, by virtue of the word "sole". ManiacJoe Sep 2013 #174

The entire tribe includes those that do not self regulate. So no, the tribe is not regulating itself Squinch Sep 2013 #60

A minuscule minority invalidates the idea of self-regulation? Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #68

You may not like the NRA, but you are spreading their talking points, and telling me Squinch Sep 2013 #72

Rather than attempting to poison the well, why not refute the assertions? Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #74

Glad to be ignored by you and your incessant spouting of NRA talking points. Squinch Sep 2013 #77

Couldn't resist one less vacuous slander, could you. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #81

Imagine my disappointment. Squinch Sep 2013 #84

Which is good Turbineguy Sep 2013 #86

It's good regardless. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #89

Thank you for making my point. Turbineguy Sep 2013 #148

If I were to light up a smoke with my coffee... MindPilot Sep 2013 #13

I don't believe in open carry, concealed carry is preferable for a variety of reasons badtoworse Sep 2013 #14

I don't "believe" in concealed carry either. hunter Sep 2013 #23

One of the major reasons I prefer concealed is that you don't notice it. badtoworse Sep 2013 #26

I've been a teacher. I notice stuff. hunter Sep 2013 #29

Being a teacher doesn't give you X-ray vision. rl6214 Sep 2013 #139

Good choice for you sarisataka Sep 2013 #78

I can still run, it just hurts like hell. hunter Sep 2013 #114

Hope your neighborhood turns around sarisataka Sep 2013 #135

I don't like either. HappyMe Sep 2013 #63

It's about intimidation AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #15

That's one reason I generally disapprove of open carry (at least in non-rural areas). Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #16

I agree. Shemp Howard Sep 2013 #182

Yep, their guns are penis-extenders Larkspur Sep 2013 #19

What took you so long? badtoworse Sep 2013 #33

The metaphor will be retired when gun nuts go extinct or get some commonsense. Larkspur Sep 2013 #40

Or when the people using it grow the fuck up. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #42

The term "nut-sack" is a common name for a gun's high-volume ammo pouch Orrex Sep 2013 #43

Common? Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #47

Common. Ask your gun-buddies who served in Iraq. Orrex Sep 2013 #52

No, I'm not remotely "splitting hairs." Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #70

I see the diference, and it's not as big a difference as you pretend. Orrex Sep 2013 #92

Oh, really? oldhippie Sep 2013 #80

Really. Orrex Sep 2013 #95

That term "200 round soft pack magazine" ... oldhippie Sep 2013 #101

Perhaps you can point me to the post where I stated that I'd seen it in a Starbuck's Orrex Sep 2013 #105

Only for you would I google "nut sack" and "ammo" Gormy Cuss Sep 2013 #134

Duzy! Tien1985 Sep 2013 #137

I'm hoping it cracked up the NSA monitors too. Gormy Cuss Sep 2013 #138

Well, no I can't .... oldhippie Sep 2013 #165

Thanks for the kind words, but... Orrex Sep 2013 #177

Orrex never said this ridiculous thing you've accused him of saying, which makes you not credible CreekDog Sep 2013 #160

WTF are you talking about? oldhippie Sep 2013 #162

i've been involved in the gun debate, and shooting sports for decades... beevul Sep 2013 #90

I believe you. Orrex Sep 2013 #96

Common? In what circles? Certainly none I am familiar with. rl6214 Sep 2013 #140

. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2013 #144

But not before you get sexism out of your system. A large number of women own & carry guns. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #131

The shoe often fits. Squinch Sep 2013 #61

There you go with your infantile gun = shoe imagery Orrex Sep 2013 #97

Crap. I was going for the infantile gun = foot measuring thing with the slidy thing imagery. Squinch Sep 2013 #99

. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2013 #146

absolutely nt G_j Sep 2013 #20

because freedom! KG Sep 2013 #25

And the best thing you can do is take your business elsewhere ... Auggie Sep 2013 #30

That's just what I'd do. I'd also distribute this: classof56 Sep 2013 #179

AND they get off on being Badasses Everyone's Afraid Of (TM) MisterP Sep 2013 #32

No, I know some with the mentality- the agenda is to show it as much as possible to mainstream it Lee-Lee Sep 2013 #35

Zealots = dangerous Omnith Sep 2013 #39

No doubt about it... BlueJac Sep 2013 #44

I disagree to a point... JohnnyRingo Sep 2013 #45

Q.E.D. skamaria Sep 2013 #50

Open carry is nothing more than public intimidation. Paladin Sep 2013 #53

I can picture some idiot sitting there all day listening for gun talk just to shut it down. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #54

Call 911 . . . OldRedneck Sep 2013 #55

So you recommend breaking the law? rl6214 Sep 2013 #142

Bigotry and shameful The Straight Story Sep 2013 #57

Some people are just plain afraid of the unfamiliar. LAGC Sep 2013 #178

To me it proves Iliyah Sep 2013 #59

Exactly DonCoquixote Sep 2013 #62

Some say it is intimidation, I say it is insecurity. Rex Sep 2013 #64

When someone is so insecure that they have to show me their gun... Iggo Sep 2013 #67

The only defense to a bad cup of coffee with a gun is a good cup of coffee with a gun. merrily Sep 2013 #69

the right-wing sees it as "CHECKS & BALANCES" napkinz Sep 2013 #73

There is also a secondary reason for confrontational carrying of firearms in public.... TinkerTot55 Sep 2013 #75

Guaranteed... TRoN33 Sep 2013 #76

And it's working Turbineguy Sep 2013 #83

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #85

Coercion Octafish Sep 2013 #87

I don't go into town much so I MuseRider Sep 2013 #88

Intimidation etherealtruth Sep 2013 #91

Anyone else noticing in these threads how the gunners have adopted the word Squinch Sep 2013 #93

It seems accurate sarisataka Sep 2013 #102

Ah, yes. The gun creed. Squinch Sep 2013 #103

This is the only gun creed I know sarisataka Sep 2013 #108

Well the mindset of many anti-gun types here is much like bigots Lee-Lee Sep 2013 #106

Poor persecuted dears. No wonder you need guns. Squinch Sep 2013 #107

I admit it, I'm bigoted against those who pollute society with their gunz. Hoyt Sep 2013 #154

Waaah. . .the people who want sensible gun control are big bad bullies. Let me alert their posts Nanjing to Seoul Sep 2013 #170

It goes along with the whole "heterosexual white Christian males are the real victims" thing. DanTex Sep 2013 #112

And don't miss the post that just equated the treatment of gun owners Squinch Sep 2013 #116

I see you missed my point Lee-Lee Sep 2013 #120

YOu said: "Substitute "gun owner" for "black male" and you have exactly the same thought pattern Squinch Sep 2013 #121

I see you still can't comprehend it Lee-Lee Sep 2013 #122

Right. Because the plight of the gun owner is the same as Squinch Sep 2013 #123

Forget it, you clearly can't comprehend. Lee-Lee Sep 2013 #124

Yes, you and that sticky wicket NRA talking point about the discrimination against gun owners Squinch Sep 2013 #126

They prefer to be called "Firearm Americans." Respect their struggle! Robb Sep 2013 #161

They'll either overcome, or shoot you in a fit of pique. Squinch Sep 2013 #200

And come on.... With all the mass shootings, who wouldn't be alarmed?! glowing Sep 2013 #98

Of someone wears a shirt or sports a tattoo Boom Sound 416 Sep 2013 #110

Shirts don't give a person the ability to instantly kill anyone in a 50 foot radius. DanTex Sep 2013 #113

So are ccw folks zealots as well? Boom Sound 416 Sep 2013 #115

Open carriers are worse: not only do the want to be able to kill anyone in an instant, DanTex Sep 2013 #118

we have a few gun carriers around here azureblue Sep 2013 #117

Could Have? thefool_wa Sep 2013 #127

Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #132

no you are thefool_wa Sep 2013 #136

Cops have been shot by their own guns. hunter Sep 2013 #168

So, more like wandering firearm dispensers? Sentath Sep 2013 #133

Aren't you cool. rl6214 Sep 2013 #143

Disgusting thefool_wa Sep 2013 #125

That's the worst kind of generalization you can make? IveWornAHundredPants Sep 2013 #145

How so? thefool_wa Sep 2013 #147

All I needed was the one word. IveWornAHundredPants Sep 2013 #149

PERHAPS! thefool_wa Sep 2013 #150

"Horribly violent world." truebluegreen Sep 2013 #151

I don't recall ever saying it takes guts to carry a gun. thefool_wa Sep 2013 #166

Then what did this mean? truebluegreen Sep 2013 #191

They served, you didn't. thefool_wa Sep 2013 #193

Bullshit. Moses2SandyKoufax Sep 2013 #157

Wow thefool_wa Sep 2013 #169

Rambling gibberish that sounds like anecdotal evidence. Moses2SandyKoufax Sep 2013 #172

Laughing at someones death thefool_wa Sep 2013 #202

The word your looking for is terrorism. Intimidation also works. n/t Agnosticsherbet Sep 2013 #129

I don't know why these businesses just don't ban firearms from their premises. CANDO Sep 2013 #130

Many businesses in my city do. hunter Sep 2013 #171

Becuase DonCoquixote Sep 2013 #185

They can SUE themselves into oblivion. CANDO Sep 2013 #194

The purpose of the planned assemblies is normalization of carrying firearms aikoaiko Sep 2013 #141

"Menacing" is the best way to describe it .................... nt rdharma Sep 2013 #152

As if that goal is some sort of improvement. Paladin Sep 2013 #190

Of course there is no need to respond to you, but I will for the pleasure. aikoaiko Sep 2013 #192

Whatever fears the public has over open carry, those fears are well-justified. Paladin Sep 2013 #195

I do talk to my fellow gun owners on forums and in person and many oppose open carry stunts. aikoaiko Sep 2013 #196

Extra points granted for the "open carry stunts" terminology. (nt) Paladin Sep 2013 #197

Florida doesn't have open carry HockeyMom Sep 2013 #153

It would take someone... Cheviteau Sep 2013 #158

One may or may not sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #159

I'd say that includes the ones with badges. rwsanders Sep 2013 #163

You are exactly right. Fortunately, here in NYC, we don't have to deal with this garbage. stevenleser Sep 2013 #167

ORLY? LAGC Sep 2013 #180

Your link is to something that can happen anywhere. Once again, what we don't have is idiots stevenleser Sep 2013 #189

Cannot reason with the gun fellaters (ht to rude pundit for that term) RT Atlanta Sep 2013 #175

Glad I never bought anything Star Bucks. blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #176

People are idoits to carry a gun out in the open for everyone to see... wundermaus Sep 2013 #181

From the ones I've met... bobclark86 Sep 2013 #183

Same here. When I see someone other than a policeman with a gun, I clear out. gtar100 Sep 2013 #187

I think some of it is just dumbassness -A kind of belligerent "because I can and you can't stop me" Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #188

I would never OC in public because I don't want to be intimidated ileus Sep 2013 #199

Usually, somebody carrying a gun up to the counter means that a robbery is in progress Kolesar Sep 2013 #201