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In reply to the discussion: What are you going to do this week to support expanded background checks? [View all]pipoman
(16,038 posts)77. There isn't one? LOL, you'se guyz..
Dealer. Any person engaged in the business of selling firearms at wholesale or retail; any person engaged in the business of repairing firearms or of making or fitting special barrels, stocks, or trigger mechanisms to firearms; or any person who is a pawnbroker. The term shall include any person who engages in such business or occupation on a part-time basis.
http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/retrieveECFR?gp=1&SID=c640525a75a8871a748344b8de662871&ty=HTML&h=L&n=27y3.0.1.2.3&r=PART#27:3.0.1.2.3.2.1.1
Oh, and this:
Engaged in the business (a) Manufacturer of firearms. A person who devotes time, attention, and labor to manufacturing firearms as a regular course of trade or business with the principal objective of livelihood and profit through the sale or distribution of the firearms manufactured;
(b) Manufacturer of ammunition. A person who devotes time, attention, and labor to manufacturing ammunition as a regular course of trade or business with the principal objective of livelihood and profit through the sale or distribution of the ammunition manufactured;
(c) Dealer in firearms other than a gunsmith or a pawnbroker. A person who devotes time, attention, and labor to dealing in firearms as a regular course of trade or business with the principal objective of livelihood and profit through the repetitive purchase and resale of firearms, but such a term shall not include a person who makes occasional sales, exchanges, or purchases of firearms for the enhancement of a personal collection or for a hobby, or who sells all or part of his personal collection of firearms;
(d) Gunsmith. A person who devotes time, attention, and labor to engaging in such activity as a regular course of trade or business with the principal objective of livelihood and profit, but such a term shall not include a person who makes occasional repairs of firearms or who occasionally fits special barrels, stocks, or trigger mechanisms to firearms;
(e) Importer of firearms. A person who devotes time, attention, and labor to importing firearms as a regular course of trade or business with the principal objective of livelihood and profit through the sale or distribution of the firearms imported; and,
(f) Importer of ammunition. A person who devotes time, attention, and labor to importing ammunition as a regular course of trade or business with the principal objective of livelihood and profit through the sale or distribution of the ammunition imported.
Executed under penalties of perjury. Signed with the prescribed declaration under the penalties of perjury as provided on or with respect to the return form, or other document or, where no form of declaration is prescribed, with the declaration:
I declare under the penalties of perjury that this(insert type of document, such as, statement, application, request, certificate), including the documents submitted in support thereof, has been examined by me and, to the best of my knowledge and belief, is true, correct, and complete.
http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/retrieveECFR?gp=1&SID=c640525a75a8871a748344b8de662871&ty=HTML&h=L&n=27y3.0.1.2.3&r=PART#27:3.0.1.2.3.2.1.1
Oh, and this:
Engaged in the business (a) Manufacturer of firearms. A person who devotes time, attention, and labor to manufacturing firearms as a regular course of trade or business with the principal objective of livelihood and profit through the sale or distribution of the firearms manufactured;
(b) Manufacturer of ammunition. A person who devotes time, attention, and labor to manufacturing ammunition as a regular course of trade or business with the principal objective of livelihood and profit through the sale or distribution of the ammunition manufactured;
(c) Dealer in firearms other than a gunsmith or a pawnbroker. A person who devotes time, attention, and labor to dealing in firearms as a regular course of trade or business with the principal objective of livelihood and profit through the repetitive purchase and resale of firearms, but such a term shall not include a person who makes occasional sales, exchanges, or purchases of firearms for the enhancement of a personal collection or for a hobby, or who sells all or part of his personal collection of firearms;
(d) Gunsmith. A person who devotes time, attention, and labor to engaging in such activity as a regular course of trade or business with the principal objective of livelihood and profit, but such a term shall not include a person who makes occasional repairs of firearms or who occasionally fits special barrels, stocks, or trigger mechanisms to firearms;
(e) Importer of firearms. A person who devotes time, attention, and labor to importing firearms as a regular course of trade or business with the principal objective of livelihood and profit through the sale or distribution of the firearms imported; and,
(f) Importer of ammunition. A person who devotes time, attention, and labor to importing ammunition as a regular course of trade or business with the principal objective of livelihood and profit through the sale or distribution of the ammunition imported.
Executed under penalties of perjury. Signed with the prescribed declaration under the penalties of perjury as provided on or with respect to the return form, or other document or, where no form of declaration is prescribed, with the declaration:
I declare under the penalties of perjury that this(insert type of document, such as, statement, application, request, certificate), including the documents submitted in support thereof, has been examined by me and, to the best of my knowledge and belief, is true, correct, and complete.
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What are you going to do this week to support expanded background checks? [View all]
BainsBane
Sep 2013
OP
lol, that is pathetic. I did not know the group had safe haven protection and even if it
Jefferson23
Sep 2013
#13
If private gun sales are so rare and the vast majority of sales already subject to background checks
BainsBane
Sep 2013
#34
You'd have to ask the NRA. I was generally okay with it once it was amended to preclude..
X_Digger
Sep 2013
#38
When I see the bill, I will decide. If it's just that, and not DiFi's AWB 3.0, I'll support it.
X_Digger
Sep 2013
#51
It doesn't change the fact that the seller commits a felony if they sell to an alien of their state.
pipoman
Sep 2013
#63
There is no requirement that a seller is required to obtain proof of the buyer's state of residence
rdharma
Sep 2013
#66
There is no "due dilignce requirement" in the law. No requirement to obtain ID of the buyer.
rdharma
Sep 2013
#95
No. I'm not lying...... I'm just illustrating how easy it is to skirt the existing laws.
rdharma
Sep 2013
#151
No, Pipoman is correct: the only sales* that don't require a background check
petronius
Sep 2013
#16
Not in this case. What law are they breaking if they say they are selling as a hobby?
Robb
Sep 2013
#67
Didn't help that the GOP dragged ATF leadership in front of a House Judiciary committee in 2006
Robb
Sep 2013
#91
Then there is the voting rights act and Obamacare, more big government plots
BainsBane
Sep 2013
#214
Most gun owners I know care less about the checks and more about how they are implemented
Lee-Lee
Sep 2013
#42
It only need include felons and those adjudicated a danger to themselves and others
BainsBane
Sep 2013
#163
our government is checking your background this very second. pls do not call it spying tho nt
msongs
Sep 2013
#24
Is that your excuse for making sure criminals have unfettered access to guns?
BainsBane
Sep 2013
#30
I called my senators to let them know I support background checks and gun control.
hrmjustin
Sep 2013
#40
And here I thought there were calls from the gun control side for 'compromise'.
HolyMoley
Sep 2013
#78
So how do you feel about my proposal- background checks done online or via smartphone app
Lee-Lee
Sep 2013
#88
To them, 'compromise' usually means, "I'll only ask for half of what I want right now." n/t
X_Digger
Sep 2013
#85
Look, you want criminals to have access to guns, there is nothing I can do about that
BainsBane
Sep 2013
#125
wellet me try and make sense of all this you asked by parsing it. not a gun owner btw.
professor5000
Sep 2013
#140
This is why gun nuts should not be allowed on DU and at the very least their posts should not be
stevenleser
Sep 2013
#221
The big problem is that gun owners believe that people with your attitude will never be satisfied
badtoworse
Sep 2013
#141
if it is something you agree with anyway, why would our side HAVE to give something?
CTyankee
Sep 2013
#222
But if you agree with background checks why is that something you "give away"?
CTyankee
Sep 2013
#227
Ifyou are correct, then I sense that there was a bit of change of tone by some gun folks. Perhaps a
CTyankee
Sep 2013
#236
Nothing until we re-tax the wealthy, end costly trade agreements and get a public option.
grahamhgreen
Sep 2013
#234