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leveymg

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1. As Lister acknowledges, 68-80 percent reject democracy in the Western-accepted sense as a concept
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 10:34 AM
Sep 2013

That's a large majority that I would categorize as extremist and undesirable as potential rulers of "Free Syria."

We're on the wrong side in this. Both sides - practically all sides, are wrong.

But again, it is more complicated than that....While all three groups are certainly less hardline than Suqor al-Sham, HASI or SIF, ISIS, and Jabhat al-Nusra, they have all on separate occasions rejected democracy in the Western-accepted sense as a concept and expressed a desire for the establishment of an Islamic state in Syria. While Kataib al-Farouq's popularity and strategic significance has declined over the last 12 months, Liwa al-Islam is a critical player in the battle for Damascus and Liwa al-Tawhid is an essential source of authority in Aleppo. Whether a decision has been made not to direct (as much or any) overtly valuable resources to these three groups is impossible to confirm, but considering their potential strategic impact in their respective theaters, it's a trend that is hard to ignore. After all, adding them to the potential "bad guys" list would result in the total reaching between 56,000 and 68,000 fighters, or 68 to 80 percent of the insurgency

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As Lister acknowledges, 68-80 percent reject democracy in the Western-accepted sense as a concept leveymg Sep 2013 #1
"We're on the wrong side in this. Both sides - practically all sides, are wrong." ProSense Sep 2013 #2
You're talking about replacing a secular despot with an Islamic caliphate. The cost - only 100K leveymg Sep 2013 #3
So your preference is for Assad's brutality because he's a "secular despot"? ProSense Sep 2013 #4
My preference is that we not be involved in the Syrian civil war. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2013 #5
Well, ProSense Sep 2013 #6
And the rebels are the Mary Poppins Brigade, strewing flowers and singing folk songs? Comrade Grumpy Sep 2013 #13
Who said that? ProSense Sep 2013 #15
Can I check "None of the Above"? Or, is someone forcing us to take sides? leveymg Sep 2013 #9
No one ProSense Sep 2013 #10
You should knock off that accusatory "you may not care" bullshit. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2013 #14
Bullshit. ProSense Sep 2013 #16
You directed that remark right at me, so don't dance around the bush. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2013 #23
Right, because your comment implied the U.S. shouldn't get involved ProSense Sep 2013 #25
That is correct. In addition this one can feel the tug of his leash from Moscow. TheKentuckian Sep 2013 #27
A Couple of Small Points, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2013 #19
In all Civil Wars, both sides "kill their own people" As did the North and the South in US History libdem4life Sep 2013 #7
Which American leader/President are you comparing to Assad? n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #8
The Syrian Civil War is small change compared to the US Civil War - >700,000 killed. Want to leveymg Sep 2013 #11
War as "small change"? ProSense Sep 2013 #12
How many more people need to die to meet your standards of moral righteousness and regime change? leveymg Sep 2013 #18
You're the one categorizing war as "small change," and why? ProSense Sep 2013 #20
I'm not comparing anyone...speaking to civil war mentality and history...ours and others. libdem4life Sep 2013 #21
The British were ready to intervene on behalf of the South, but backed off geek tragedy Sep 2013 #17
I had not heard that, but incidentally, here is info from Wiki I found interesting... libdem4life Sep 2013 #22
They were considering recognizing the South as an independent nation. geek tragedy Sep 2013 #24
Yes, that would make sense. Thanks for the info. libdem4life Sep 2013 #26
K & R Scurrilous Sep 2013 #28
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