General Discussion

napkinz

(17,199 posts)

36. I didn't expect total agreement ... I am shocked the talking points sound

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 12:09 PM

Sep 2013

like those one would find on some far-right blog.

Shocked ...and dismayed.

Imagine if someone has posted a thread with a Facebook image that promoted teaching children to hate, or that promoted homophobia or racism, or gutting Medicare and Social Security, etc. ... and most of the responses condoned that Facebook image making the rounds.

So who are we?

(When I woke up and saw the image this morning I was horrified. I just shook my head and thought, "This just isn't right. I can't believe this crap." Besides unfriending the idiots who posted and liked the image on Facebook, I just needed to share it here to let others know -- though I'm sure many have seen shit like this before -- what the response is to the whole gun issue. And I posted it here also as a form of catharsis. Just needed to get it off my chest.)

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

156 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Guns & Kids -- This Is Just WRONG!!!!! [View all] napkinz Sep 2013 OP

hmmmmm el_bryanto Sep 2013 #1

Let's arm everyone; lets teach every little boy and girl how to use a gun ... really? napkinz Sep 2013 #3

I don't know about you, but I have no plans to give my daughter a gun when she turns 15. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #4

Some of the Morlocks will say exactly just that. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #2

yep, they've arrived! napkinz Sep 2013 #8

well if you post something in gd you are going to get different opinions loli phabay Sep 2013 #21

Remember to use namecalling when trying to advance your progressive ideas. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #26

yup, its almost as if its not a discussion thats wanted but rather just attacks loli phabay Sep 2013 #27

I didn't expect total agreement ... I am shocked the talking points sound napkinz Sep 2013 #36

how is promoting teaching women self defence promoting hate or anything like it. loli phabay Sep 2013 #38

aren't all laws in a sense just a piece of paper ... napkinz Sep 2013 #43

when you have someone who is going yo go out of their way to harm or kill you loli phabay Sep 2013 #47

the presence of a gun makes it more likely that napkinz Sep 2013 #52

What it should show you is that pursuing strict gun regulation with the goal of reducing gun Brickbat Sep 2013 #41

more guns = more violence napkinz Sep 2013 #44

Wow, and did they ever. nt Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #86

this must be a parallel DU Universe I woke up to napkinz Sep 2013 #95

I learned at seven. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #5

Mine will be learning this fall. Brickbat Sep 2013 #6

Gun nuts put hot women in fake setups all the time to pretend that guns are not... onehandle Sep 2013 #7

still what it's promoting is LIKED by a certain population on Facebook napkinz Sep 2013 #12

That's one of the most sexist things I've heard all day. Daemonaquila Sep 2013 #149

I would rather teach them, especially the dangers of handling a gun rl6214 Sep 2013 #9

I'm guessing you mean "than" instead of "then." Ron Green Sep 2013 #123

Ok rl6214 Sep 2013 #148

I see an ad for John Cornyn here on the GD page. Whisp Sep 2013 #10

I agree that her stance could be improved, but its not all wrong aikoaiko Sep 2013 #11

My daughters are still young (5 & 9) but I will provide them firearms training when they're teens. Throd Sep 2013 #13

yup, especially if there are guns in the house, my daughter is six and has her own .22 that she like loli phabay Sep 2013 #19

Wow! So more people here support teaching their children how to use firearms? napkinz Sep 2013 #14

Any idiot can pick up a gun. I want my kids to understand how to use them safely. Throd Sep 2013 #17

We ARE the "rational ones." Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #42

It is rational and wise for gun owners to teach their children basic gun safety. ... spin Sep 2013 #79

+1 Go Vols Sep 2013 #133

well it's not an AR-15 in her hand, so whats the big deal? GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #15

a can of mace works too. n/t PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #16

sometimes, if your talking purely for self defence then mace only works on a percentage of people loli phabay Sep 2013 #20

It does not have to stop anyone. PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #22

erm, you do realise its not going to slow everyone down as listed above loli phabay Sep 2013 #24

A gun may not stop those same people. n/t PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #31

much better odds it will, loli phabay Sep 2013 #32

Please link the statistical study proving your claim. n/t PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #35

how about you use common sense, you can fight through pepper spray loli phabay Sep 2013 #39

"common sense" is a term I hear often PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #46

lol, so you are in fact saying you have no common sense. loli phabay Sep 2013 #48

I doubt you could do what you claim PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #50

be much easier if you spray me than double tap me though. loli phabay Sep 2013 #51

Still no stats backing that claim up. PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #54

best is everyone walks away, worst is that you dont. everything else is in between loli phabay Sep 2013 #57

Basic law enforcement training- you have to get sprayed and still be able to fight and handcuff Lee-Lee Sep 2013 #124

so what you are saying is PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #125

Just saying it is possible to still function after being pepper sprayed, it is not the end-all Lee-Lee Sep 2013 #128

Too bad Zimmerman wasn't satisfied with stalking people with mace, rather than a gun. Hoyt Sep 2013 #131

One of the lessons taught in all academies. furious Sep 2013 #126

Yep. We had to get sprayed, and then Lee-Lee Sep 2013 #129

Same thing here. furious Sep 2013 #130

Interesting use of language in your posts. nolabear Sep 2013 #55

I agree. PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #59

the reaction depends on the individual and the circumstances of the shoot loli phabay Sep 2013 #60

Moral Relativism.. PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #64

no, just answering the mans question. Or do you not think shooting someone in defence or of loli phabay Sep 2013 #67

There's no right or wrong, but it's not cavalier either. Killing deserves respect for what it is. nolabear Sep 2013 #65

yup, ive seen some who just wont go near another gun to others who handle it well loli phabay Sep 2013 #70

I've never known a killed person's family that handled it "well". nolabear Sep 2013 #75

distance is what you have to do, when you have a shoot its something that you had to do loli phabay Sep 2013 #76

I don't think t's either/or. You should be concerned but not "eaten up". nolabear Sep 2013 #84

To be honest, I'd be rather wary of anyone who could kill and then shrug it off LanternWaste Sep 2013 #121

Agreed. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #72

The problem here is that there may not BE a specific study on this. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #63

i wonder how the study would go, okay first we spray you then shoot you loli phabay Sep 2013 #71

If I recall correctly... Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #74

with oc spray its not size its aggression and anything that helps that aggression loli phabay Sep 2013 #77

You can ignore and fight through the pain of OC... Decaffeinated Sep 2013 #33

The litle girl looks too young. She should be about ten for gun instruction. N/T GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #18

Good idea but way too young, IMO. And is that a silencer? NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #23

restraining orders only work on people who are able to abide by them loli phabay Sep 2013 #25

Silencers are good, especially for indoor shooting .... oldhippie Sep 2013 #29

Good point. (nt) NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #37

You see, this just makes zero sense to me. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #101

I would not teach gun use to kids, no I would not, that's for parents to decide. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #109

My daughter hated shooting pistols even with hearing protection ileus Sep 2013 #28

You're revealing a lot more about yourself than you intended with that post. Paladin Sep 2013 #30

maybe hated was too stong a wording... ileus Sep 2013 #34

Please tell me where you live tblue Sep 2013 #56

I suspect the feeling is mutual. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #58

by that method you are ruling out ever traveling anywhere in the rural areas of the US loli phabay Sep 2013 #62

You're probably safe unless you drive off the interstate (77) ileus Sep 2013 #80

nah the tank traps would stop the vehicle long before then. loli phabay Sep 2013 #83

You're a single issue poster, posting only when talking about guns CreekDog Sep 2013 #153

Creepy... pintobean Sep 2013 #154

yes you are CreekDog Sep 2013 #155

My sincere hope is that it's some sort of Andy Kaufman-esqe performance art. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #93

With 35% of his DU output being pro-gun posts in Gun Control/RKBA? Paladin Sep 2013 #96

It used to be higher. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #97

I am against guns PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #40

Nerve agents are much more effective than mace or bullets. hunter Sep 2013 #45

I Don't Want My Daughter Dating A Gun Owner otohara Sep 2013 #49

and yet like all parents, we are not going to have much of a say in who our kids date when loli phabay Sep 2013 #53

Oh You'd Be Surprised otohara Sep 2013 #66

i hope not, but you never know whats in peoples hearts and what they can become. loli phabay Sep 2013 #68

But Aren't Gun Folks otohara Sep 2013 #87

hell no, but when shes an adult she gets to make that call. i cant exactly force her not to date loli phabay Sep 2013 #89

Attitudes like yours are why many gun owners.. MicaelS Sep 2013 #69

good point. loli phabay Sep 2013 #73

ya, withholding the truth is a great idea PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #82

How? Please tell. Throd Sep 2013 #85

psychic powers i think. loli phabay Sep 2013 #91

It would be like explaining to a drug addict PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #94

What utter bullshit. Throd Sep 2013 #99

of course you dont believe PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #116

You're addicted to dogma Throd Sep 2013 #119

If that is true PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #122

woo. loli phabay Sep 2013 #100

of course you don't believe PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #115

I'd bet you any amount you'd never pick me out of a crowd as a gun owner. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #137

That is just laughable... SQUEE Sep 2013 #156

What About A Gang Member otohara Sep 2013 #88

you do know there is a difference between being a gang member carrying and someone who loli phabay Sep 2013 #90

I See A Lot Of STOP Signs otohara Sep 2013 #118

2010, 15,576 children and teenagers were injured by firearms otohara Sep 2013 #144

thank you otohara for sharing that information napkinz Sep 2013 #150

I am a single man with no kids. MicaelS Sep 2013 #92

Ohhh Prissy Am I? otohara Sep 2013 #117

The white vs AA part is irrelevant. It's the "gang member" thing that matters. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #135

My bias, but I think those who like this would be the ones I'd be likely to need an order against. nolabear Sep 2013 #61

I'd be a lot happier if the little girl were learning to shoot something LibertyLover Sep 2013 #78

lol. i was thinking sharpe as well, love the old bess as well. loli phabay Sep 2013 #81

I've shot replica Brown Bess muskets LibertyLover Sep 2013 #113

Unless the MOTHER of these daughters is a gunner herself, HockeyMom Sep 2013 #98

Keep this shit up and you wil have everyone holed up in their homes gopiscrap Sep 2013 #102

Nailed It otohara Sep 2013 #147

On which side? pintobean Sep 2013 #151

Outrageous. And also sexist. cui bono Sep 2013 #103

We are not in disagreement napkinz Sep 2013 #104

In the rural parts of the country, this is quite normal. furious Sep 2013 #106

Okay, I'll respond to you to clear up my post... cui bono Sep 2013 #107

no problem cui napkinz Sep 2013 #108

As Mother with only daughters HockeyMom Sep 2013 #110

My dad taught me how to use a gun when I was a kid LittleBlue Sep 2013 #105

I'm just going to say ... napkinz Sep 2013 #111

We all have our own opinions here. furious Sep 2013 #112

The gun owning people think EVERYONE HockeyMom Sep 2013 #114

I wholeheartedly support your right not to own a gun. Throd Sep 2013 #120

Great, but I have to live in a Gun Household HockeyMom Sep 2013 #132

"His guns in the home endanger me." Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #134

I believe it's fine to teach children how to use firearms. Bonx Sep 2013 #136

You desperately want gun owners to be fundamentally different from you hack89 Sep 2013 #139

We're talking about teaching CHILDREN to use guns napkinz Sep 2013 #140

Millions of Americans learned to shoot as kids hack89 Sep 2013 #141

so it's the urban versus rural argument napkinz Sep 2013 #142

Personal experience tells me otherwise hack89 Sep 2013 #143

I wish I could find the thread ... napkinz Sep 2013 #145

Ok nt hack89 Sep 2013 #146

k/r Dawson Leery Sep 2013 #127

You are so right... doggie breath Sep 2013 #138

Teach them about people and relationships, and to steer clear orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #152