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79. It is rational and wise for gun owners to teach their children basic gun safety. ...

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 01:08 PM

Sep 2013

Of course any training should be in the presence of a responsible adult and all firearms should be properly secured in a home with children.

In our nation firearms are legally owned by an estimated 80,000,000 citizens and 99.9% use their firearms in a responsible manner for hunting, target shooting and self defense.

I can understand why many people hate firearms and I also can understand why many people enjoy owning firearms. I have personally witnessed the tragedy the misuse of a firearm can cause but I also have enjoyed target shooting handguns for over 40 years.

Hopefully in the future both sides of the gun control debate will sit down at a table and agree on some much needed improvements to our gun control laws. Before that ever happens it will be necessary for both sides to show a little respect for the other and understand they both have valid points to make.

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Guns & Kids -- This Is Just WRONG!!!!! [View all] napkinz Sep 2013 OP

hmmmmm el_bryanto Sep 2013 #1

Let's arm everyone; lets teach every little boy and girl how to use a gun ... really? napkinz Sep 2013 #3

I don't know about you, but I have no plans to give my daughter a gun when she turns 15. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #4

Some of the Morlocks will say exactly just that. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #2

yep, they've arrived! napkinz Sep 2013 #8

well if you post something in gd you are going to get different opinions loli phabay Sep 2013 #21

Remember to use namecalling when trying to advance your progressive ideas. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #26

yup, its almost as if its not a discussion thats wanted but rather just attacks loli phabay Sep 2013 #27

I didn't expect total agreement ... I am shocked the talking points sound napkinz Sep 2013 #36

how is promoting teaching women self defence promoting hate or anything like it. loli phabay Sep 2013 #38

aren't all laws in a sense just a piece of paper ... napkinz Sep 2013 #43

when you have someone who is going yo go out of their way to harm or kill you loli phabay Sep 2013 #47

the presence of a gun makes it more likely that napkinz Sep 2013 #52

What it should show you is that pursuing strict gun regulation with the goal of reducing gun Brickbat Sep 2013 #41

more guns = more violence napkinz Sep 2013 #44

Wow, and did they ever. nt Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #86

this must be a parallel DU Universe I woke up to napkinz Sep 2013 #95

I learned at seven. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #5

Mine will be learning this fall. Brickbat Sep 2013 #6

Gun nuts put hot women in fake setups all the time to pretend that guns are not... onehandle Sep 2013 #7

still what it's promoting is LIKED by a certain population on Facebook napkinz Sep 2013 #12

That's one of the most sexist things I've heard all day. Daemonaquila Sep 2013 #149

I would rather teach them, especially the dangers of handling a gun rl6214 Sep 2013 #9

I'm guessing you mean "than" instead of "then." Ron Green Sep 2013 #123

Ok rl6214 Sep 2013 #148

I see an ad for John Cornyn here on the GD page. Whisp Sep 2013 #10

I agree that her stance could be improved, but its not all wrong aikoaiko Sep 2013 #11

My daughters are still young (5 & 9) but I will provide them firearms training when they're teens. Throd Sep 2013 #13

yup, especially if there are guns in the house, my daughter is six and has her own .22 that she like loli phabay Sep 2013 #19

Wow! So more people here support teaching their children how to use firearms? napkinz Sep 2013 #14

Any idiot can pick up a gun. I want my kids to understand how to use them safely. Throd Sep 2013 #17

We ARE the "rational ones." Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #42

It is rational and wise for gun owners to teach their children basic gun safety. ... spin Sep 2013 #79

+1 Go Vols Sep 2013 #133

well it's not an AR-15 in her hand, so whats the big deal? GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #15

a can of mace works too. n/t PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #16

sometimes, if your talking purely for self defence then mace only works on a percentage of people loli phabay Sep 2013 #20

It does not have to stop anyone. PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #22

erm, you do realise its not going to slow everyone down as listed above loli phabay Sep 2013 #24

A gun may not stop those same people. n/t PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #31

much better odds it will, loli phabay Sep 2013 #32

Please link the statistical study proving your claim. n/t PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #35

how about you use common sense, you can fight through pepper spray loli phabay Sep 2013 #39

"common sense" is a term I hear often PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #46

lol, so you are in fact saying you have no common sense. loli phabay Sep 2013 #48

I doubt you could do what you claim PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #50

be much easier if you spray me than double tap me though. loli phabay Sep 2013 #51

Still no stats backing that claim up. PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #54

best is everyone walks away, worst is that you dont. everything else is in between loli phabay Sep 2013 #57

Basic law enforcement training- you have to get sprayed and still be able to fight and handcuff Lee-Lee Sep 2013 #124

so what you are saying is PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #125

Just saying it is possible to still function after being pepper sprayed, it is not the end-all Lee-Lee Sep 2013 #128

Too bad Zimmerman wasn't satisfied with stalking people with mace, rather than a gun. Hoyt Sep 2013 #131

One of the lessons taught in all academies. furious Sep 2013 #126

Yep. We had to get sprayed, and then Lee-Lee Sep 2013 #129

Same thing here. furious Sep 2013 #130

Interesting use of language in your posts. nolabear Sep 2013 #55

I agree. PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #59

the reaction depends on the individual and the circumstances of the shoot loli phabay Sep 2013 #60

Moral Relativism.. PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #64

no, just answering the mans question. Or do you not think shooting someone in defence or of loli phabay Sep 2013 #67

There's no right or wrong, but it's not cavalier either. Killing deserves respect for what it is. nolabear Sep 2013 #65

yup, ive seen some who just wont go near another gun to others who handle it well loli phabay Sep 2013 #70

I've never known a killed person's family that handled it "well". nolabear Sep 2013 #75

distance is what you have to do, when you have a shoot its something that you had to do loli phabay Sep 2013 #76

I don't think t's either/or. You should be concerned but not "eaten up". nolabear Sep 2013 #84

To be honest, I'd be rather wary of anyone who could kill and then shrug it off LanternWaste Sep 2013 #121

Agreed. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #72

The problem here is that there may not BE a specific study on this. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #63

i wonder how the study would go, okay first we spray you then shoot you loli phabay Sep 2013 #71

If I recall correctly... Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #74

with oc spray its not size its aggression and anything that helps that aggression loli phabay Sep 2013 #77

You can ignore and fight through the pain of OC... Decaffeinated Sep 2013 #33

The litle girl looks too young. She should be about ten for gun instruction. N/T GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #18

Good idea but way too young, IMO. And is that a silencer? NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #23

restraining orders only work on people who are able to abide by them loli phabay Sep 2013 #25

Silencers are good, especially for indoor shooting .... oldhippie Sep 2013 #29

Good point. (nt) NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #37

You see, this just makes zero sense to me. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #101

I would not teach gun use to kids, no I would not, that's for parents to decide. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #109

My daughter hated shooting pistols even with hearing protection ileus Sep 2013 #28

You're revealing a lot more about yourself than you intended with that post. Paladin Sep 2013 #30

maybe hated was too stong a wording... ileus Sep 2013 #34

Please tell me where you live tblue Sep 2013 #56

I suspect the feeling is mutual. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #58

by that method you are ruling out ever traveling anywhere in the rural areas of the US loli phabay Sep 2013 #62

You're probably safe unless you drive off the interstate (77) ileus Sep 2013 #80

nah the tank traps would stop the vehicle long before then. loli phabay Sep 2013 #83

You're a single issue poster, posting only when talking about guns CreekDog Sep 2013 #153

Creepy... pintobean Sep 2013 #154

yes you are CreekDog Sep 2013 #155

My sincere hope is that it's some sort of Andy Kaufman-esqe performance art. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #93

With 35% of his DU output being pro-gun posts in Gun Control/RKBA? Paladin Sep 2013 #96

It used to be higher. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #97

I am against guns PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #40

Nerve agents are much more effective than mace or bullets. hunter Sep 2013 #45

I Don't Want My Daughter Dating A Gun Owner otohara Sep 2013 #49

and yet like all parents, we are not going to have much of a say in who our kids date when loli phabay Sep 2013 #53

Oh You'd Be Surprised otohara Sep 2013 #66

i hope not, but you never know whats in peoples hearts and what they can become. loli phabay Sep 2013 #68

But Aren't Gun Folks otohara Sep 2013 #87

hell no, but when shes an adult she gets to make that call. i cant exactly force her not to date loli phabay Sep 2013 #89

Attitudes like yours are why many gun owners.. MicaelS Sep 2013 #69

good point. loli phabay Sep 2013 #73

ya, withholding the truth is a great idea PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #82

How? Please tell. Throd Sep 2013 #85

psychic powers i think. loli phabay Sep 2013 #91

It would be like explaining to a drug addict PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #94

What utter bullshit. Throd Sep 2013 #99

of course you dont believe PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #116

You're addicted to dogma Throd Sep 2013 #119

If that is true PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #122

woo. loli phabay Sep 2013 #100

of course you don't believe PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #115

I'd bet you any amount you'd never pick me out of a crowd as a gun owner. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #137

That is just laughable... SQUEE Sep 2013 #156

What About A Gang Member otohara Sep 2013 #88

you do know there is a difference between being a gang member carrying and someone who loli phabay Sep 2013 #90

I See A Lot Of STOP Signs otohara Sep 2013 #118

2010, 15,576 children and teenagers were injured by firearms otohara Sep 2013 #144

thank you otohara for sharing that information napkinz Sep 2013 #150

I am a single man with no kids. MicaelS Sep 2013 #92

Ohhh Prissy Am I? otohara Sep 2013 #117

The white vs AA part is irrelevant. It's the "gang member" thing that matters. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #135

My bias, but I think those who like this would be the ones I'd be likely to need an order against. nolabear Sep 2013 #61

I'd be a lot happier if the little girl were learning to shoot something LibertyLover Sep 2013 #78

lol. i was thinking sharpe as well, love the old bess as well. loli phabay Sep 2013 #81

I've shot replica Brown Bess muskets LibertyLover Sep 2013 #113

Unless the MOTHER of these daughters is a gunner herself, HockeyMom Sep 2013 #98

Keep this shit up and you wil have everyone holed up in their homes gopiscrap Sep 2013 #102

Nailed It otohara Sep 2013 #147

On which side? pintobean Sep 2013 #151

Outrageous. And also sexist. cui bono Sep 2013 #103

We are not in disagreement napkinz Sep 2013 #104

In the rural parts of the country, this is quite normal. furious Sep 2013 #106

Okay, I'll respond to you to clear up my post... cui bono Sep 2013 #107

no problem cui napkinz Sep 2013 #108

As Mother with only daughters HockeyMom Sep 2013 #110

My dad taught me how to use a gun when I was a kid LittleBlue Sep 2013 #105

I'm just going to say ... napkinz Sep 2013 #111

We all have our own opinions here. furious Sep 2013 #112

The gun owning people think EVERYONE HockeyMom Sep 2013 #114

I wholeheartedly support your right not to own a gun. Throd Sep 2013 #120

Great, but I have to live in a Gun Household HockeyMom Sep 2013 #132

"His guns in the home endanger me." Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #134

I believe it's fine to teach children how to use firearms. Bonx Sep 2013 #136

You desperately want gun owners to be fundamentally different from you hack89 Sep 2013 #139

We're talking about teaching CHILDREN to use guns napkinz Sep 2013 #140

Millions of Americans learned to shoot as kids hack89 Sep 2013 #141

so it's the urban versus rural argument napkinz Sep 2013 #142

Personal experience tells me otherwise hack89 Sep 2013 #143

I wish I could find the thread ... napkinz Sep 2013 #145

Ok nt hack89 Sep 2013 #146

k/r Dawson Leery Sep 2013 #127

You are so right... doggie breath Sep 2013 #138

Teach them about people and relationships, and to steer clear orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #152