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69. What are you talking about? Obamacare closes the donut whole!! What they

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 03:15 PM

Sep 2013

get back are rebates. They get checks in the mail to help them pay for prescription drugs. Do you not know anything about how Obamacare corrects the horror that Bush and the Republicans did to the prescription drug program? Medicare Part D is not only a disaster for seniors, it added billions to our deficit. While Obamacare isn't perfect, it at least closes that gap, reduces the deficit by not OVERPAYING the manufacturers of Medicare devices (such as wheelchairs, hearing aids, etc.)

You really need to learn about Medicare Part D:

http://www.aarp.org/health/medicare-insurance/medicare_partD_guide/

Changes under Obamacare to Medicare Part D (compares pre-Obamacare "Donut Hole" Part D to Obamacare's closing of the Donut Hole):

http://assets.aarp.org/rgcenter/ppi/health-care/fs182-doughnut-hole-reform.pdf

Now, I know you have issues with Obama. I see that clearly from many of your anti-Obama posts, but at least be fair. I may have issues with some of his decisions, too, but I try to be as fair as I can, and at least know as much as I can about the policy.

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I ask all you Obama doubters out there.. [View all] busterbrown Sep 2013 OP

Clinton raised taxes on the wealthy MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #1

Bush added prescription drug coverage to Medicare??? Are you fucking kidding me? That was Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #2

YES lumpy Sep 2013 #14

+100000 we can do it Sep 2013 #26

From a senior's point of view, how is it worse than what they had previously? nt MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #32

What are you talking about? Obamacare closes the donut whole!! What they Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #69

Delete G_j Sep 2013 #79

Also signed the repeal of Leach Bailey...And gave us NAFTA... Please!!! busterbrown Sep 2013 #5

Um... I answered the question that you asked. MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author busterbrown Sep 2013 #45

And the repeal of the Glass Steagall treestar Sep 2013 #63

We have the Corporate Media today due to Clinton's deregulation of the media... Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #71

Wait, ProSense Sep 2013 #8

Correction: SCHIP was *created* under Clinton, not just expanded. MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #21

SCHIP was an expansion, and it still excluded some children. ProSense Sep 2013 #43

Wikipedia says "created", but why do you think it wasn't progressive legislation, MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #44

"Wikipedia says" says expansion of Medicaid, and ProSense Sep 2013 #46

Ah... what I wrote wasn't clear MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #48

Manny, the Donut Hole was not good, my friend. Nothing about the Donut Hole Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #83

Oh Manny sheshe2 Sep 2013 #16

I answered the question that was asked, but MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #23

How is ripping off seniors progressive? we can do it Sep 2013 #28

How is it a rip off of Seniors MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #36

You said it we can do it Sep 2013 #47

None of those represents new policy or programs frazzled Sep 2013 #17

SCHIP wasn't created under Clinton? MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #22

Yeah - but Clinton did very little - This was Kennedy's baby karynnj Sep 2013 #31

Yup! ProSense Sep 2013 #49

Gosh, I had forgotten about that. Even I am really good on social policy... Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #84

Yes, but essentially an expansion of Medicaid ... frazzled Sep 2013 #35

Is an Obama doubter someone that doubts Obama 100% of the time? Rex Sep 2013 #3

You got it... But I didn�t want to waste time on the �Hater� angle they would have pounced on. busterbrown Sep 2013 #6

Just curious. Rex Sep 2013 #54

Would that make you feel better? demwing Sep 2013 #34

The doubters should Jamaal510 Sep 2013 #4

...not to mention Jobs bills. But, let's be honest, too. I remember spending most of Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #85

ACA is a Republican written piece of garbage that was an alternate to HillaryCare Koko Ware Sep 2013 #7

Stated it was a �shallow first step�.. busterbrown Sep 2013 #10

It is an idea that came from republicans, you yourself call it a shallow first step, and we are liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #59

Absolutely.. busterbrown Sep 2013 #60

you can think whatever you want. The fact is economic inequality is the largest we've seen in recent liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #62

Fuck that! It's a HUGE step in the right direction, especially for states like CA, NY Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #89

Just because it was designed by the Heritage Foundation MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #25

You forgot Mitt.. Surprised.. busterbrown Sep 2013 #41

I doubt him because there has been better. mick063 Sep 2013 #9

And where was everyone in 1981? busterbrown Sep 2013 #11

Did you live 1981? mick063 Sep 2013 #15

Why are you pointing this out? busterbrown Sep 2013 #20

It was a series of unfortunate events. mick063 Sep 2013 #27

Could not agree more.. busterbrown Sep 2013 #33

The big problem was............. mick063 Sep 2013 #40

Oh, ye Obama doubters! woo me with science Sep 2013 #12

"doubter" means you don't support him 110% Skittles Sep 2013 #61

Meh. You never really loved Him anyway... n/t cherokeeprogressive Sep 2013 #76

I don't think anyone should ever LOVE a politician! Skittles Sep 2013 #77

I call your ACA and raise you the f'n Patriot Act, domestic spying and indefinite detention. nm rhett o rick Sep 2013 #13

Patriot Act? busterbrown Sep 2013 #18

Excuse me but the Patriot Act was EXPANDED under Obama's administration.. SomethingFishy Sep 2013 #70

o.k.... For those who hate Obama..... busterbrown Sep 2013 #72

Holy shit you're a psychic! SomethingFishy Sep 2013 #73

You tend to see and write what you want to see.. busterbrown Sep 2013 #82

Uh I did address "that part" with the psychic statement. SomethingFishy Sep 2013 #88

Again, Look what they tried with Benghazi.. busterbrown Sep 2013 #90

Which shows how much you haven't been paying attention. jazzimov Sep 2013 #39

Not to mention the fact that the entire premise of the OP was to note more PROGRESSIVE legislation Number23 Sep 2013 #51

Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 rug Sep 2013 #19

I should have tagged.... When 3 branches of govt. busterbrown Sep 2013 #24

Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 rug Sep 2013 #30

16 of 34 years we had a (D) Prez.... and we get bones? Series? And people wonder WHY liberals(D) Melinda Sep 2013 #37

I think the President�s magic wand might be a good short story.. busterbrown Sep 2013 #42

My sentiments exactly. 840high Sep 2013 #50

Great Job!!! busterbrown Sep 2013 #38

Reccing yourself? truebluegreen Sep 2013 #74

and a couple of minor wins make for all his monumental fuck ups? really? bowens43 Sep 2013 #52

Before you start listing his fuck ups.. Tell me that after 50 years of government being controlled busterbrown Sep 2013 #53

Buster, you have to get off the "magic wand" bus for a moment. mick063 Sep 2013 #55

Did he actually cut S.S or did he use it as a way to avoid a govt. shut down? busterbrown Sep 2013 #56

He offered the cuts to Social Security. mick063 Sep 2013 #57

Social Security is the bread and butter single issue for all voters. Democrats better learn quick liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #58

Wasn�t a true political threat? busterbrown Sep 2013 #64

Your denial greatly hurts your credibility with me. mick063 Sep 2013 #65

My credibility should not come into play. busterbrown Sep 2013 #66

When doubt becomes a bad thing we are a theocracy cthulu2016 Sep 2013 #67

The National Environmental Policy Act (1969 -- signed by Richard Nixon) Jim Lane Sep 2013 #68

Mandates are REGRESSIVE... Demo_Chris Sep 2013 #75

Family and Medical Leave Act of 1993 (FMLA) Erose999 Sep 2013 #78

Was passed with a Democratic House and Senate..Big difference. busterbrown Sep 2013 #81

the environment? G_j Sep 2013 #80

SCHIP comes to mind nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #86

It's what mitt the shit got for Massachusetts. Octafish Sep 2013 #87

The Obama haters may hate the ACA, but this looks like a pretty good progressive move to me... Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #91