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The Magistrate

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60. We Certainly Did, Sir

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 03:52 PM

Sep 2013

Mostly stuff we viewed as junk or useless; Kingcobras and Bearcats, for instance.

That was just going through the motions; if their hearts had been in it they would have sent substantial aid including troops and air support. There were some in Congress wanted to employ atomic weapons after the fall of Dien Bein Phu.

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