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In reply to the discussion: What are you going to do this week to support expanded background checks? [View all]BainsBane
(54,094 posts)217. So sorry, your friend has left the building
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You are right about one thing. There is no compromise with extremists. It is a lost cause to get the gun brigade to concern themselves with the thousands of lives lost to guns sold to felons without background checks. That their interests are one with a multi-billion dollar corporate lobby does make things difficult. But the fact is they are essentially irrelevant in the process. What matters is that the gun lobby has bought and paid for GOP politicians. That gun evangelists support that corruption of democracy in favor of stockpiles of guns and unfettered profits for the gun industry exposes who they truly are.
The funny thing is that the gun fundies stand with only 6% of the nation in opposing background checks, yet they call me extremist, when I share the position held by 94% of Americans. That shows how diligently they've worked to shelter themselves from reality. I suppose that's the nature of any closed group, whether Scientologists, old men who prey on young girls, professional ball players. They start to see their own skewed view of reality as the norm and lose sight of how far outside the mainstream they really are. So to bring a dose of reality, here is some polling data: http://www.dailykos.com/polling/2012/12/18/US/148/DON5k
Here's a new poll showing 94% approval for background checks.
POLL: Americans overwhelmingly approve of background checks for gun purchases
Do you favor or oppose background checks on potential gun buyers?
Favor 94%
Oppose 6%
Source: CNN/Opinion Research Corp.
Date conducted: 1/14/2011 - 1/16/2011
Sample: 1,014 adults
Margin of error: +/- 3% pts
More About: CNN , Gun Control , Issue , Opinion Research
According to This Poll
http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/pollingcenter/polls/2451
You are right about one thing. There is no compromise with extremists. It is a lost cause to get the gun brigade to concern themselves with the thousands of lives lost to guns sold to felons without background checks. That their interests are one with a multi-billion dollar corporate lobby does make things difficult. But the fact is they are essentially irrelevant in the process. What matters is that the gun lobby has bought and paid for GOP politicians. That gun evangelists support that corruption of democracy in favor of stockpiles of guns and unfettered profits for the gun industry exposes who they truly are.
The funny thing is that the gun fundies stand with only 6% of the nation in opposing background checks, yet they call me extremist, when I share the position held by 94% of Americans. That shows how diligently they've worked to shelter themselves from reality. I suppose that's the nature of any closed group, whether Scientologists, old men who prey on young girls, professional ball players. They start to see their own skewed view of reality as the norm and lose sight of how far outside the mainstream they really are. So to bring a dose of reality, here is some polling data: http://www.dailykos.com/polling/2012/12/18/US/148/DON5k
Here's a new poll showing 94% approval for background checks.
POLL: Americans overwhelmingly approve of background checks for gun purchases
Do you favor or oppose background checks on potential gun buyers?
Favor 94%
Oppose 6%
Source: CNN/Opinion Research Corp.
Date conducted: 1/14/2011 - 1/16/2011
Sample: 1,014 adults
Margin of error: +/- 3% pts
More About: CNN , Gun Control , Issue , Opinion Research
According to This Poll
http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/pollingcenter/polls/2451
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What are you going to do this week to support expanded background checks? [View all]
BainsBane
Sep 2013
OP
lol, that is pathetic. I did not know the group had safe haven protection and even if it
Jefferson23
Sep 2013
#13
If private gun sales are so rare and the vast majority of sales already subject to background checks
BainsBane
Sep 2013
#34
You'd have to ask the NRA. I was generally okay with it once it was amended to preclude..
X_Digger
Sep 2013
#38
When I see the bill, I will decide. If it's just that, and not DiFi's AWB 3.0, I'll support it.
X_Digger
Sep 2013
#51
It doesn't change the fact that the seller commits a felony if they sell to an alien of their state.
pipoman
Sep 2013
#63
There is no requirement that a seller is required to obtain proof of the buyer's state of residence
rdharma
Sep 2013
#66
There is no "due dilignce requirement" in the law. No requirement to obtain ID of the buyer.
rdharma
Sep 2013
#95
No. I'm not lying...... I'm just illustrating how easy it is to skirt the existing laws.
rdharma
Sep 2013
#151
No, Pipoman is correct: the only sales* that don't require a background check
petronius
Sep 2013
#16
Not in this case. What law are they breaking if they say they are selling as a hobby?
Robb
Sep 2013
#67
Didn't help that the GOP dragged ATF leadership in front of a House Judiciary committee in 2006
Robb
Sep 2013
#91
Then there is the voting rights act and Obamacare, more big government plots
BainsBane
Sep 2013
#214
Most gun owners I know care less about the checks and more about how they are implemented
Lee-Lee
Sep 2013
#42
It only need include felons and those adjudicated a danger to themselves and others
BainsBane
Sep 2013
#163
our government is checking your background this very second. pls do not call it spying tho nt
msongs
Sep 2013
#24
Is that your excuse for making sure criminals have unfettered access to guns?
BainsBane
Sep 2013
#30
I called my senators to let them know I support background checks and gun control.
hrmjustin
Sep 2013
#40
And here I thought there were calls from the gun control side for 'compromise'.
HolyMoley
Sep 2013
#78
So how do you feel about my proposal- background checks done online or via smartphone app
Lee-Lee
Sep 2013
#88
To them, 'compromise' usually means, "I'll only ask for half of what I want right now." n/t
X_Digger
Sep 2013
#85
Look, you want criminals to have access to guns, there is nothing I can do about that
BainsBane
Sep 2013
#125
wellet me try and make sense of all this you asked by parsing it. not a gun owner btw.
professor5000
Sep 2013
#140
This is why gun nuts should not be allowed on DU and at the very least their posts should not be
stevenleser
Sep 2013
#221
The big problem is that gun owners believe that people with your attitude will never be satisfied
badtoworse
Sep 2013
#141
if it is something you agree with anyway, why would our side HAVE to give something?
CTyankee
Sep 2013
#222
But if you agree with background checks why is that something you "give away"?
CTyankee
Sep 2013
#227
Ifyou are correct, then I sense that there was a bit of change of tone by some gun folks. Perhaps a
CTyankee
Sep 2013
#236
Nothing until we re-tax the wealthy, end costly trade agreements and get a public option.
grahamhgreen
Sep 2013
#234