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MichaelHarris

(10,017 posts) Fri Sep 20, 2013, 03:30 AM Sep 2013

Road Rage and easy access to firearms [View all]

"Two drivers are dead after a "road rage" incident in the Ionia, Mich., area escalated into a shootout....Both men had licenses to carry concealed weapons, according to authorities."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/19/road-rage-michigan/2841069/

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Road Rage and easy access to firearms [View all] MichaelHarris Sep 2013 OP

glad nobody who wasn't involved in this got hurt JI7 Sep 2013 #1

Do you mean other than their families? nt longship Sep 2013 #2

i meant mostly that nobody else was shot JI7 Sep 2013 #3

I wonder MichaelHarris Sep 2013 #4

may be a blessing in disguise snooper2 Sep 2013 #14

Their families clearly supported their second amendment rights n/t malaise Sep 2013 #17

Guns: when screaming and yellling aren't enough to solve your problems. Javaman Sep 2013 #5

Which one instigated? Was one of them simply defending himself? Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #6

"Road Rage and easy access to guns" kcr Sep 2013 #7

"You know, the topic of the thread?" Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #9

Where, exactly, did it "adjudicate guilt"? kcr Sep 2013 #11

It assumes both shooters were guilty. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #12

Okay. You're not going to explain how stating the shooting wouldn't have happened whithout guns kcr Sep 2013 #15

There is nothing you can do to create the gun free situation you fictionalize Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #16

No, but you can counter the gun in every hand movement kcr Sep 2013 #18

So as soon as someone steps outside they're home criminals get a free shot? Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #19

The idea that the only way to defend ourselves is arming everyone with guns kcr Sep 2013 #21

Women, the elderly and the not physcially dominating choose to own guns. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #22

My argument is based on no such thing kcr Sep 2013 #25

Well, I don't carry a gun and neither does my husband. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #27

I "groused" that you missed the point of the thread because you did. kcr Sep 2013 #28

"I'm against those who are pushing to get people to make that choice in the first place." Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #29

It's burning down the house to get rid of the bugs. kcr Sep 2013 #30

Our decision to own/carry guns was bon with ZERO impact from the NRA. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #31

I don't think all gun owners are NRA loving brain dead zombies. kcr Sep 2013 #32

Piffle because it's a bogus, unproven (debunked?) claim. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #35

Debunked by whom? kcr Sep 2013 #36

My unnamed source debunked your unnamed source. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #39

They've had a free shot at me, every day for nigh on 50 years. maxsolomon Sep 2013 #45

You are free to exercise your choices for your life. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #46

Well, when the instrument of that choice is a deadly one kcr Sep 2013 #50

"Must issue" concealed carry has been around for several decades. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #23

Oh, so if a problem is in decline, it means we no longer have to worry about it? kcr Sep 2013 #26

Nope. If that was what I'd meant, I'd have written that. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #37

Oh, I'm sorry. kcr Sep 2013 #38

You're being absurd. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #40

Why would one assume that? kcr Sep 2013 #41

If the rationale for eliminating CCW permitting isn't that it increases violence... Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #42

Well thanks for the well wishes. kcr Sep 2013 #43

Same back at'cha! Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #44

There's nothing wrong with emotions. kcr Sep 2013 #47

There is when they inhibit the acceptance of demonstrable fact. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #48

Bull. kcr Sep 2013 #49

Please don't (grossly) misrepresent my statements. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #53

But I'm not misrepresenting your statements. kcr Sep 2013 #54

At first I thought one party must have been innocent seveneyes Sep 2013 #10

Without dispute. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #20

My guess is that being armed gave both a false sense of security Kaleva Sep 2013 #34

emotion based outcomes are never good. ileus Sep 2013 #8

Any conflict, I'm sure you'll agree. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #13

Six... sarisataka Sep 2013 #24

Folks need to be happy I don't own a gun! bigwillq Sep 2013 #33

Once again: BAN GUNS!!!! gopiscrap Sep 2013 #51

those law abiding gun owners are at it again mwrguy Sep 2013 #52