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MicaelS

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28. No, I bet they're not unconcerned..

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 01:48 PM

Sep 2013

But I do think they accept this as the "way thing are in Chicago".

To be brutal, I think many of these shootings are "turf", gang and drug turf related. Chicago seems to have a long history of problems with gangs going back over a century. Why? They haven't got a handle on gangs, yet. Why? Chicago seems to also have a long history of corruption in political office, an d law enforcement. Why?

I have never lived there, nor do I want to live there. So, I don't have insightful answers. You seem to have some good insights on issues, so what are your views on the questions I have asked?

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A Tale of Two Mass Shootings [View all] MineralMan Sep 2013 OP

crickets Puzzledtraveller Sep 2013 #1

Thanks for bringing up kidnapping cases! MineralMan Sep 2013 #10

not enough dead people? Raine1967 Sep 2013 #2

Yah, that must be it. MineralMan Sep 2013 #6

one had fatalities, the other didn't Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #3

Ah...so mass shootings don't become news if nobody died? MineralMan Sep 2013 #4

I'm just telling you the media coverage perspective.... Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #7

But DU isn't the media, at least as most people think of the media. MineralMan Sep 2013 #9

So what's your analysis of the two incidents? Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #13

I forgot, I guess. Nobody commented on DU about the MineralMan Sep 2013 #19

Fair point...So what insights can you share after comparing and contrasting the two?? Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #29

Ah, insights. MineralMan Sep 2013 #32

Yes, simple answer is the number killed. morningfog Sep 2013 #14

Nah, I don't think so. MineralMan Sep 2013 #16

Black on black crime doesn't get much attention Kaleva Sep 2013 #5

Ah, the race card... MineralMan Sep 2013 #8

Here's a link to my thread in GD about it Kaleva Sep 2013 #18

Thanks. I saw that one. MineralMan Sep 2013 #20

I'm sitting on the sidelines JustAnotherGen Sep 2013 #11

So is just about everyone else, it seems. MineralMan Sep 2013 #12

Well I'm interested JustAnotherGen Sep 2013 #24

I hear you. MineralMan Sep 2013 #27

Lead story on CNN... sarisataka Sep 2013 #15

I know. It led the news this morning on CBS radio, which MineralMan Sep 2013 #17

Truthfully, because it's viewed as just another Chicago shooting. MicaelS Sep 2013 #21

I wonder if the families of those who were shot MineralMan Sep 2013 #23

No, I bet they're not unconcerned.. MicaelS Sep 2013 #28

I wanted to raise the question, and see what others thought MineralMan Sep 2013 #30

No one cared about the Navy shooting ileus Sep 2013 #22

Yes, of course. No one at all here has been discussing it since Tuesday. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #40

The race and or social status of the victims and or the (presumed) shooters is my guess. Fumesucker Sep 2013 #25

I was thinking the same thing, of course. MineralMan Sep 2013 #26

The DU dog that did not bark in the night Fumesucker Sep 2013 #33

Because the reporters and politicians don't want Chicago and similar cities to be focused on Lurks Often Sep 2013 #31

I don't think so. The story was the top of the news, MineralMan Sep 2013 #35

I don't watch TV news and only skim headlines on the internet. Lurks Often Sep 2013 #42

I'm guessing that the Chicago incident ... JEFF9K Sep 2013 #34

Ah. But we won't discuss it on DU. MineralMan Sep 2013 #36

The Chicago shooting is a potential minefield of social and racial issues hack89 Sep 2013 #37

By Jove, I think you've got it. MineralMan Sep 2013 #38

I wish you'd just made this the OP Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #44

But that was not what I wanted the thread to be. MineralMan Sep 2013 #46

I get it... Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #48

Why would racial/social issues on a supposed liberal forum make anyone uncomfortable? Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #43

What goes unsaid is also interesting. MineralMan Sep 2013 #45

Crazed gunman violence is more of a threat to public safety than gang violence. SecularMotion Sep 2013 #39

Now that's an interesting way of looking at it. Kaleva Sep 2013 #41

Excellent POV. n/t MicaelS Sep 2013 #51

The Navy Yard shooting was reported as being done with an AR-15 krispos42 Sep 2013 #47

partly because the death toll was higher in DC gopiscrap Sep 2013 #49

More dead people in the first. IdaBriggs Sep 2013 #50

BIG difference Warpy Sep 2013 #52