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grantcart

(53,061 posts)
16. 100% incorrect
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 02:41 PM
Sep 2013

What was decided was that the Federal Government has a constitutional right to pass legislation that regulates the health care industry.

That you focus on the mandate but are apparently unaware that health care plans are now subject to price and profit regulations reveals a rather significant lack of understanding of the scope of the Affordable Care Act.

As to the draconian new tax you refer to is a whopping $ 95 or 1 %.

https://www.healthcare.gov/what-if-someone-doesnt-have-health-coverage-in-2014/

Those that have lower incomes will be eligible for subsidies. If you want higher subsidies and public options then vote for a more liberal congress.

You are also incorrect as to 'forcing to buy from private companies' as the health care exchanges will have non profit providers as well:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/24/best-health-care-brands-are-nonprofit_n_1910733.html

As to the question of 'adding a new tax', this right wing meme is also incorrect. Currently hospitals are required to cover indigent care but allowed to ramp up their expenses to cover it. That is in fact a hidden tax. They will no longer be able to do so. As a result the hidden tax in inflated hospital fees will now be offset by more people joining and drastically reducing indigent care.

But back to the initial point. The President crafted legislation that would not only pass Congress and the Senate but pass the Supreme Court. Presidents since Teddy Roosevelt have been talking about this but now for the first time in 80 years it has passed. Except for England where universal care came after the war when their medical system was decimated and needed to be rebuilt, other developed countries, like Canada started on the road to Universal Single Payer Care with small steps. In Canada it started with a hospital only plan in one province. That expanded in scope and then in provinces. It took 14 years to reach universal single payer status. Our first step, by comparison, was a much bolder step. Future steps will be determined by how we control the House of Representatives, not who the President is.

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Ted Cruz: Obamacare is terrible and the people won't want to give it up. DetlefK Sep 2013 #1
Like Social Security and Medicare IronLionZion Sep 2013 #6
Or worse (to them), provide a positive example of active government JHB Sep 2013 #15
But UNLIKE Social Security & Medicare, bvar22 Sep 2013 #19
Gee, wonder what could SOLVE this problem .. . . hmmmmmmm ..... HughBeaumont Sep 2013 #2
Awesome comic beerandjesus Sep 2013 #3
it bothers the living shit out of me think_critically Sep 2013 #4
Misses the part where they can charge whatever the hell they want for those pre-exisiting condition AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #5
Not under Obamacare. subterranean Sep 2013 #7
What a load of crap! Cryptoad Sep 2013 #8
I have bhikkhu Sep 2013 #11
I was referring to Cryptoad Sep 2013 #12
this is unintentionally a good argument for taking for profit insurance out of the loop altogether yurbud Sep 2013 #9
I doubt that the Chief Justice would have voted that was constitutional. grantcart Sep 2013 #13
The Chief Justice voted that government can force us to buy from private companies, as long merrily Sep 2013 #14
100% incorrect grantcart Sep 2013 #16
You are mistaken. The opinion was not limited to the health care industry. merrily Sep 2013 #18
THat is the only RIGHT enshrined in the ACA: bvar22 Sep 2013 #20
Stealing! Thank you! IdaBriggs Sep 2013 #10
I think this captures Obama's state of mind exactly! hedgehog Sep 2013 #17
Fucking republicans ignore the fact that...... LaPera Sep 2013 #21
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