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HereSince1628

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26. The dichotomy you present can account for early deaths, but it's not always so simple.

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 08:53 PM

Mar 2012

The notion of abuse also suggests guilt/personal recklessness, which I don't think is the only alternative to a genetic time-bomb.

some examples...

Getting a pathogen doesn't require serious abuse of your body and there are many that can sure as shit put you among the gravel...

You can also get exposed to a variety of toxins by means which stretch the meaning of 'serious' and 'abuse.' You just need 'enough' and it might come accidentally.

Allergies (which can become frankly acute at any age) can kill. My mother almost died, and would have if she hadn't gotten an adrenaline jab, after eating a slice of toast for breakfast one day. She was in her 50's and had been eating bread all of her adult life...only to suddenly come up allergic to yeast.

And sometimes what turns out to be bad for a person was presented as something that was supposed to be good...some adverse drug reactions are lethal.

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I am not so sure this kind of talk is going to be productive except to say he... Poll_Blind Mar 2012 #24

The dichotomy you present can account for early deaths, but it's not always so simple. HereSince1628 Mar 2012 #26

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