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kpete

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Sun Sep 22, 2013, 11:26 AM Sep 2013

Aha – That’s Why They Were So Desperate to Get Us Into Syria [View all]

SUN SEP 22, 2013 AT 07:06 AM PDT
Aha – That’s Why They Were So Desperate to Get Us Into Syria
by Minerva


Well, maybe it was because Western intelligence had determined that Iran was planning diplomatic overtures around their reputed nuclear weapons program and ending sanctions.

Neocons, military enthusiasts, asshole media lightweights, Israel and Saudi Arabia, et al desperately want the US to attack Iran. You know, start with bombs, see what flows from there.

Iranian diplomatic overtures, possibly worth engaging and likely to be popular with the rest of the world, are a disaster if you’re trying to suck the US into a proxy war.

If the laughably-weak-case coalition had conned the US into bombing Syria, it would likely have precluded Iran being able to undertake these overtures.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/19/us-iran-usa-obama-idUSBRE98I0VZ20130919


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/09/22/1240528/-Aha-That-s-Why-They-Were-So-Desperate-to-Get-Us-Into-Syria



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Lawrence Wilkerson has a similar take on the war mongers. He calls them traitors.

And then you come to this country and you find Netanyahu's allies in people like Senator John McCain, Senator Lindsey Graham from my home state, and others who are bordering on being traitors, in my view, because they won't let this president have room to achieve a diplomatic solution. They're all angry now that he didn't bomb Syria, that he in fact, in conjunction with Putin, came up with a deal that may be extremely challenging to implement. But nonetheless it's kept the bombs from dropping, which is a good thing. And so they're moving on to Iran, with Graham even saying he's going to move for legislation to authorize the use of military force against Iran in the next four to five months. So these people are bordering on being traitors. And those who would say, well, they're just good Republicans trying to keep up the pressure on Iran so that Iran will negotiate and negotiate in good faith, that's preposterous. We're to the point now where everybody needs to put down his 0.45 caliber pistol and walk [incompr.] table and begin to negotiate in good faith. And people like Lindsey Graham and John McCain need to sit down, recede into the background, if you will, and shut their mouths.

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Bill Maher's right - the U.S. has become the George Zimmermann of international affairs. backscatter712 Sep 2013 #1
Thst is a sad FN libodem Sep 2013 #4
Bingo Berlum Sep 2013 #16
The Zimmermann analogy is off because Zimmerman didn't get campaign contributions, jobs for AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #49
over a million by some estimates. yurbud Sep 2013 #66
Not a penny in CAMPAIGN contributions. Campaign contributions are given to office seekers who ARE AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #77
When it come to Bush/Cheney and warmongers in general, any analogy should have the disclaimer: yurbud Sep 2013 #68
Or wits. :) BlueMTexpat Sep 2013 #95
But he DID get contributions.. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2013 #76
They are lost and as outdated as their fear-clutched "binkies" are getting taken away. libdem4life Sep 2013 #2
Did anyone else watch the Charlie Rose int'w w/Ehud Barak? Wants Obama to bomb Iran without leveymg Sep 2013 #3
Yes , and the very ideas are insane and if implemented, would be criminal, literally. n/t Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #7
That never stopped them in the past. bvar22 Sep 2013 #36
Geeze, you just reminded me of David Addington...ugh. n/t Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #53
missed it. but reading your summation, seems soooo like him to have these war mongers on the air. 2banon Sep 2013 #86
Why do we listen to anything Israel says, again? Scootaloo Sep 2013 #90
Recommend! KoKo Sep 2013 #5
They profit from war malaise Sep 2013 #6
Big K&R nt riderinthestorm Sep 2013 #8
Same crowd that brought us Iraq and Afghanistan. Truth be known, probably 9/11 as well. summerschild Sep 2013 #9
I agree one thousand Duval Sep 2013 #87
Democracy is the enemy of the Petrodollar Sheikhdoms... Octafish Sep 2013 #10
The GOP is trying to destroy this country Cryptoad Sep 2013 #11
Not true. RC Sep 2013 #12
Enjoy your serfdom! nt Cryptoad Sep 2013 #14
What serfdom? RC Sep 2013 #15
It seems to be his new mantra. Not sure why he keeps repeating it, or if he knows why either. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2013 #18
Don't ya know Obama's PURE! Phlem Sep 2013 #22
It's the Third Way, New Dem theme song. Fuddnik Sep 2013 #62
Oh, I get it. RC Sep 2013 #64
Life is pretty darned exciting right before you enter a black hole. BlueStreak Sep 2013 #94
Serfdom for all is coming after Obama signs the TPP Phlem Sep 2013 #24
I'll bet you're sorry Cartoonist Sep 2013 #20
OMG Phlem Sep 2013 #23
Excuse me Cartoonist Sep 2013 #25
You mean this kind of positive? Phlem Sep 2013 #28
Was I talking to you? Cartoonist Sep 2013 #32
Ah a link to Conservative Democrat, makes perfect sense. Phlem Sep 2013 #33
You make the same mistake Cartoonist Sep 2013 #40
OOOO good one! Phlem Sep 2013 #42
I'm not stalling Cartoonist Sep 2013 #47
Bombing people because they're getting gassed by their leader is wrong. Period. Phlem Sep 2013 #56
Oh and since this is a pissing contest Phlem Sep 2013 #45
"Cartoonist" is the perfect Screen Name for someone... bvar22 Sep 2013 #37
F&F Cartoonist Sep 2013 #41
No. I was citing fantasies like this: bvar22 Sep 2013 #44
Sarcasm, look it up. Cartoonist Sep 2013 #50
Oh, I see what your problem is. bvar22 Sep 2013 #55
My problem? Cartoonist Sep 2013 #79
Can't refute anything in my post so you resort to attacking the messenger? RC Sep 2013 #58
Valid points, still . . . Cartoonist Sep 2013 #83
But there is a difference between parties. RC Sep 2013 #84
+1 deutsey Sep 2013 #91
this IS satire, right? Skittles Sep 2013 #71
I hope to see the end of corporatism. dotymed Sep 2013 #92
Obama's been a-bedding the GOP? independentpiney Sep 2013 #59
aiding and a bedding? treestar Sep 2013 #69
It sounds like what I was looking for. RC Sep 2013 #72
abetting treestar Sep 2013 #73
Yeah, that's it, a pun. RC Sep 2013 #74
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #27
Thank you MIRT!!!!! uppityperson Sep 2013 #29
K&R! Enthusiast Sep 2013 #13
They never quit. But as Brzezinsky recently pointed out, it is becoming sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #17
Sure, what good is a military-industrial complex without an enemy? thesquanderer Sep 2013 #19
This parallels the Republican strategy on the ACA. GoneFishin Sep 2013 #21
Who knew ProSense Sep 2013 #26
Worse, it is disaster colonialism. Festivito Sep 2013 #30
I have constantly repeated this point over the last months. Thanks for this thread! Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #31
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #34
Now there's a spectacularly stupid conspiracy theory. Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2013 #35
And just because you label this speculation as "utterly absurd"... bvar22 Sep 2013 #38
Which part do you disagree with Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #39
In God We Trust polynomial Sep 2013 #43
Yes, it IS wonderful that Obama did not bomb Syria. Maedhros Sep 2013 #54
"In God We Trust" ? 2banon Sep 2013 #85
K&R! Phlem Sep 2013 #46
well that was part of it IMO however it was also supposed to be a show of strength azurnoir Sep 2013 #48
A bully beating up on a weak kid is supposed to scare Russia? davidn3600 Sep 2013 #51
Yes, I'm afraid so. Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #52
;somehow I don't it's quite over yet azurnoir Sep 2013 #93
Hey Kpete Phlem Sep 2013 #57
Some of us here at DU were quite outspoken abt the Iran conncetion. truedelphi Sep 2013 #60
They are TRAITORS. DeSwiss Sep 2013 #61
Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran. Fuddnik Sep 2013 #63
WTF? Anyone who mentions a proxy war with Iran jazzimov Sep 2013 #65
The Supreme Leader in Iran came out with a Fatwa (religious) decree against Iran developing Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #70
good point gopiscrap Sep 2013 #67
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Sep 2013 #75
makes a lot of sense yellowwoodII Sep 2013 #78
Yep. jsr Sep 2013 #80
Kick And Recommend cantbeserious Sep 2013 #81
They won't be satisfied until the whole damn Middle East is under flames. Initech Sep 2013 #82
Great post kpete, as always! n/t Duval Sep 2013 #88
I feel that President Obama should be considered the best US President ever SaveAmerica Sep 2013 #89
Thinking back, although the phrase "red line" BlueMTexpat Sep 2013 #96
K&R woo me with science Sep 2013 #97
kick woo me with science Sep 2013 #98
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