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independentpiney

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22. Nonsense. That is totally irresponsible of you. Shame on you

Sun Sep 22, 2013, 12:35 PM

Sep 2013

No one but drug warriors and sensationalist journalists have claimed it causes hallucinations and delusions. As stated in the article you posted Kratom acts as a mild to moderate stimulant in doses lower than 7 grams of dried leaf for most people and as an analgesic/sedative in larger doses. A large dose of highly concentrated extract form would put you to sleep, not turn you into a cannibal. It has been used for ages in Southeast Asia to combat fatigue and to help overcome opiate addiction. Thailand made it illegal because of it's interference with opium revenues.

It's probably slightly more dangerous than cannabis, but much less so than alcohol.

http://www.kratomassociation.org/kratom-testimonials

http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/drug_chem_info/kratom.pdf

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Two teens attack one's mom, plan to eat her liver after pill binge, deputy says [View all] Tx4obama Sep 2013 OP

I'm bored. Wadda ya wanna do? longship Sep 2013 #1

I know. You couldn't even get me to eat regular liver, as a kid. Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #9

I can't eat it NOW Warpy Sep 2013 #11

I haven't eaten red meat in over a decade, but I guess poultry have em, too. Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #13

When there's a sale on chicken livers, I buy them for the cat Warpy Sep 2013 #14

I love kitties, but the truth of the matter is, the space in their heads is mostly taken up by eyes Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #17

That is not true! CountAllVotes Sep 2013 #29

Yet they're self aware, capable of problem solving Warpy Sep 2013 #30

But a Fresser sandwich is awesome. longship Sep 2013 #16

kinda thing I could eat when I was 22 and constantly cleaning my pipes with ethanol Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #18

Will they be able to get into Harvard, though? flvegan Sep 2013 #2

Change that to Gonzaga and you're on the right track jmowreader Sep 2013 #7

I'm sure the mom understands that this is the fault of the school system, petronius Sep 2013 #28

They took "blue pills" BuelahWitch Sep 2013 #3

I am ruling out Alleve and Viagra Skittles Sep 2013 #6

Ordering up an ass-kicking for Skittles! madinmaryland Sep 2013 #24

SPANK!!! L0oniX Sep 2013 #27

"It could be anything, it could be ecstasy, it had to have been some type of opium, hallucinogen...W Incitatus Sep 2013 #4

Or it could have been two bored kids Warpy Sep 2013 #12

I was thinking bath salts too and they should have done a tox screen on these boys Maraya1969 Sep 2013 #15

What in the actual fuck? Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2013 #5

I think I found it...it's called kratom jmowreader Sep 2013 #8

Interesting ... Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2013 #20

interesting. harder to get the less dangerous drugs. these easy to make chems, fill the niche. Sunlei Sep 2013 #23

Kratom is a leaf from a tropical tree, not an 'easy to make drug' independentpiney Sep 2013 #25

police didn't test for any drug did they?. one kid only 'blamed' some 'blue pill." Sunlei Sep 2013 #31

I tend to agree with you independentpiney Sep 2013 #37

Easy: there's no piss test for it yet jmowreader Sep 2013 #33

You're obviously confusing this with 'spice' and 'bath salts' independentpiney Sep 2013 #36

Try these... jmowreader Sep 2013 #38

I read them and they're very unconvincing independentpiney Sep 2013 #39

Nonsense. That is totally irresponsible of you. Shame on you independentpiney Sep 2013 #22

Spice and bath salts were also good harmless fun too jmowreader Sep 2013 #34

No, they were new synthetic, hallucinogenic drugs designed to mimic already illegal drugs independentpiney Sep 2013 #35

I bet that wasn't even any fava beans and chianti to go along with Mom's liver in that house either MrScorpio Sep 2013 #10

Ahh, you're bad. Very bad. Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2013 #21

Fantasies to perpetuate our longest war. Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #19

Why the hell did they have swords?? bravenak Sep 2013 #26

So what possibly caused this? If they had beat her with a gun, problem solved, but in this case The Straight Story Sep 2013 #32